# Bubble builder unreliable? **URL:** \ **Category:** Bugs\ **Created:** [February 24, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/bubble-builder-unreliable/248770 "2023-02-24T18:48:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![snowsnow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@snowsnow](https://forum.bubble.io/u/snowsnow)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/bubble-builder-unreliable/248770/1 "2023-02-24T18:48:24Z")
Hi, Am I the only one who is experience the builder sometimes randomly messing up stuff by itself? I sometimes find my elements randomly sorted and I have to sort them in the right order again. Another time, like right now, some elements disappeared and I lost a lot of work… Currently using Chrome on Mac… ---
**Author:** ![mac2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/mac2/32/87215_2.png) [@mac2](https://forum.bubble.io/u/mac2)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 6:58pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/bubble-builder-unreliable/248770/2 "2023-02-24T18:58:04Z")
I noticed something similar about 6 months ago. I haven’t seen it happen since. Probably worth a bug report… ---
**Author:** ![w.fly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/w.fly/32/26894_2.png) [@w.fly](https://forum.bubble.io/u/w.fly)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 7:50pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/bubble-builder-unreliable/248770/3 "2023-02-24T19:50:16Z")
Just my 2 cents, been here since 2017. Haven’t had “random” mess ups like that. I would not consider the builder unreliable - Not any less reliable than VS Code, Wappler, any Adobe product, or any other means to develop websites/software apps. ---
**Author:** ![snowsnow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@snowsnow](https://forum.bubble.io/u/snowsnow)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/bubble-builder-unreliable/248770/4 "2023-02-24T20:29:18Z")
@w.fly That’s great to hear, cause I really love Bubble and I much prefer this being a problem with my setup that can hopefully be fixed somehow. I guess there might be a problem with my Chrome, then. I had issues more than a few times and I often reset the cache to try prevent them. It also often happens that the error icon start showing some errors by itself. If I check the error shown, it’s usually an empty field in a workflow (which I had previously already filled in). In fact, I don’t need to fill it again, I just need to refresh the page: the error disappears and the field is now not empty anymore. It happens so often that when I see an error displayed, I first refresh the page, and most of the time the error notification is gone. This is an annoyance but nothing compared to when I get some permanent loss of my work, like today, or the general sense of insecurity of building a complex app and fearing that the builder might mess up something without me even noticing immediately… Any advice of what it could be? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![w.fly](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/w.fly/32/26894_2.png) [@w.fly](https://forum.bubble.io/u/w.fly)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2023, 8:41pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/bubble-builder-unreliable/248770/5 "2023-02-24T20:41:40Z")
I feel you @snowsnow – I seem to be having browser issues lately too (but they haven’t affected my Bubble thankfully). Unfortunately I’m not sure what might be happening in your case. 😕 I just had to reinstall my Chrome because it refused to pickup my new printer. Fixed the problem. But seems radical for your case. lol ---
**Author:** ![ihsanzainal84](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/ihsanzainal84/32/245932_2.png) [@ihsanzainal84](https://forum.bubble.io/u/ihsanzainal84)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2023, 9:12am UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/bubble-builder-unreliable/248770/7 "2023-02-25T09:12:04Z")
Why not try using another browser for a few days and see if the problem persists? It’s a good way to troubleshoot editor issues. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/original/3X/2/8/2847faa74692c2ffa5d939d3dc3724cdd060d247.png) [@system](https://forum.bubble.io/u/system)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2023, 6:48pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/bubble-builder-unreliable/248770/8 "2023-03-10T18:48:24Z")
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