jon5
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Seems totally fair enough, other than the API part, people need to be able to proof of concept with different APIs in Bubble to make sure the flows work right. You can test all you want in Postman, but Bubble has its own nuance. I wouldn’t pay $30/month to POC personally. Appreciate you grandfather’ing existing users in though! Best of luck,
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What is this $59? is Bubble doing A/B testing on the plans?
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If this decision which I’m sure has been well thought out is good for the Bubble community, then I support it even if it means I have to pay a fair price.
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I think this change is good for Bubble financially and for the continuation of the platform. However, I do agree with the people who say that there needs to be a $5-10 a month plan. I see a lot of people on Bubble building apps for their own personal use or for a small number of friends/family.
One way that I can think of to implement it and prevent businesses from using the lower tiers would be to limit the number of users. Something like this:
Free - new free plan for learning and development.
$5/month - limit of 10 users, ability to push live, and raise the database entry cap (e.g. 5000 entries)
$10/month - limit of 20 users, ability to push live, and raise the database entry cap(e.g. 10000 entries)
$29/month - personal plan
I just used arbitrary numbers for users and database caps, obviously, the real users would have to be based on Bubble’s expenses.
I believe a system like this would convert more free users to paid users without presenting such a high cost of entry.
I’m on Bubble’s agency plan and a lot of people that I discuss Bubble with balk at the jump from personal to professional. Usually, it becomes a non-issue once we discuss their app and their monetization strategy. These people are always the ones that don’t understand the cost of running a server and maintaining it. That being said I can see that most of the free users of Bubble are in the same position. They are drawn to Bubble with the promise of easily creating a web app for a low cost to prove their concept but don’t understand why there are such drastic (in their eyes) price jumps.
The large number of plans could easily be shown to users in two pricing tables. One pricing table for non-commercial users with the Free/$5/$10/$29 plans and one for businesses with the $29(as a starting/MVP level)/$129/$529/Enterprise. The enterprise plan needs to be better shown as well because I constantly have to tell clients that it exists when they are worried about scaling.
Just my 2¢
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I was just trying to set a scheduled workflow on an app I was developing for myself and had the error that it wasn’t allowed on the free plan.
This limit is not really smart in my opinion because you’re already limiting use of the live version. We should have this available on version-test emo.
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Yes you’re right, always dependant but I knew this when I joined. The good thing is it saved me 5years + of learning to code and now I’m building amazing stuff that is having an impact in my community and for myself.
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As much as I have respect for Bubble capabilities and how they have grown the last few years, I’m not happy with how things have evolved on the pricing side of things. I’m currently paying for 2 Professional and 1 Personal plan of which only 1 is a production system simply because I need specific functionality in development. Just because I want to test daily scheduling I have to jump from 25 to 115…
Now with the new changes and not having access to log files you’re basically forcing me to pay 25 a month if I want to do any sort of serious development. Ok so now the frontend I’m building for one of my 115 apps on a hobby plan will have to be a 25 plan going forward cause hobby ain’t available and without logging and scheduled API nothing significant can be done.
The way I’m looking at this is Bubble is dead set on making sure they get at least 25 out of every dev that’s building anything serious. Let’s call it what it is Bubble. You need the free tier for marketing purposes so that’s not going anywhere. So how about creating a 25 Developer tier with all the bells and whistles and a 10 000 record DB limit per app on this tier. Link the subscription to the user so we can play around and run multiple projects at once. Remove the domain linking and keep built with bubble so we’re forced to upgrade to another plan once ready to deploy.
I realize Bubble is the best there is but seriously guys, if you’re going to force me to work one project at a time I’m inclined to consider looking at alternatives.
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gaimed
116
59 would be really expensive…
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People would pay it though, without a doubt. There are no competitors like Bubble. The difficult part would be to justify the monthly fee. I’m currently paying for approx 4 different apps, of which I have to close down 2 if the fee was put to $59.
Legacy 4x$16 
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gaimed
118
True. I am combining more apps into one bubble app with my powerlabel plugin (soon new version saasalias). That makes those simple apps feasible on a personal plan.
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This is absolutely ridiculous. I hope you expect many people to stop using your platform.
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- Completely ignoring European server/location problems
- Introduced 0 new elements in the builder (pre built repeating groups with headers and filters)
- Showed 0 progress with a new builder (I doubt it’s even exists)
- But keeps “tighten the nuts” with plans
That’s being said: Bubble is a business, not the community.
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Did not get it yet … I had an old Hobby app deployed on live… Yesterday I tried to update but the google api´s do not work anymore on live app… it is working on development but not working on live app??? is that right ???This is an old app on Hobby category.
Yes, definitely some A/B testing going on.
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jfasja
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While this is understandable. I would consider a cheaper Personal Plan to be a game changer. Something around $15 paid monthly. Mostly for countries in LATAM, Africa and the likes.
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connecting back to my previous post in this thread. This is the exact worry I was referring to.
I have seen people being shown the $59 price in other threads as well. It has never been addressed by @Bubble so it’s hard to tell what is going on. But I suppose it is reasonable to assume some form of A/B testing on pricing structure.
As I mentioned before, I’m not aiming for the next Uber, but across the two apps I’m currently running, one of which sees thousands of monthly users but very few monetization options, I would see a price increase from $696 to $1,416. Which all of the sudden becomes a cost I simply can’t justify, and I would be forced to leave the platform, and most likely close down the website.
If Bubble decides to jack the price over 100%, there’s nothing I can do about it and I have zero control over if/when that happens.
Cost of admission when using a closed system.
edit.
not sure if this is another pricing test?
http://forum.bubble.io/t/pricing-mismatch/139171?u=casheets123
Seems that my great bubble worry is dangerously close.
joeyg
130
At the end of the day, it’s futile to try and please everyone with 4 tiers. Learn from AWS and allow people to pay for what they need as they go. Start at the lowest price and build from there. I don’t mind the hobby plan pricing. For what you get, it’s pretty good value in my opinion. My beef is the jump from personal to professional. There are things that I sorely need in the professional plan (biggest one is the ability to have 2 development versions - one for “the next release” and one for bug fixing). But I don’t need the capacity or the other frills. I’d pay more than $29 but not $100 more! Capacity and storage could easily be added as you go on a per unit basis.
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JonL
131
What a surprise!
It is August 2019 all over again.
Limitations, paywalls and price increases will only get more usual.
It’s what happens when a company accepts money from investors.
Can anyone from the old days tell me what has changed in 18 months since the infamous increase of price and paywall additions and this new limitation of the free plan?
What are those game changing features that have been added since that can really justify these two big changes?
Bubble is exactly at the same point as 18 months ago. There is barely anything you couldn’t do before that you can now.
P.S. Own your source code you fools!
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