Don't just take Bubble advice on New Workload Unit Plan

boston85719 · 2024-09-11T15:55:49.981Z

When Bubble shows the popup on opening the app, do not just follow their guidance on which plan to take. They are nudging people to pay more than necessary.

For example, this live application got the below popup…

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With roughly 163,000 WUs in the month of August, Bubble suggests to subscribe to the Growth plan at $134/month, with the main rationale as ‘this plan includes 250,000 WUs’ and does not provide any other reasoning for the suggestion, such the included features the app may need for its functionality.

So, in this particular case, the app doesn’t need any of the highlighted features of the Growth plan from the below screen shot

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Instead, this particular app should be on the Starter plan for $32/month with an included 175,000 WUs, since the app only use 163,000 WUs in the last month, and if need be the app owner could subscribe to a WU tier 1 for an additional $29/month for an extra 200,000 WUs, meaning a total cost of maybe $61/month rather than $134/month.

Just to highlight that, my client in this case will be saving $73/month or around $875 a year, just because they took the time to ask for the advice before they made the choice.

georgecollier · 2024-09-11T16:05:40.413Z

Great spot. I saw that popup and assumed it would calculate everything. When I see a popup like this, I expect it to recommend me the cheapest combination of plan, WU tiers, and WU overages and do that in one click. Plans themselves should map directly from their legacy counterparts (Personal → Starter, Production → Growth, or whatever it was before), unless it’s somehow cheaper to be on a higher plan and get more features.

boston85719 · 2024-09-11T16:13:11.720Z

georgecollier:

Plans themselves should map directly from their legacy counterparts (Personal → Starter, Production → Growth

That is what it is doing I believe. The app was on the legacy Professional plan.

georgecollier · 2024-09-11T16:15:22.692Z

boston85719:

The app was on the legacy Professional plan.

Oh, then yeah I think it’s doing the right thing. If it made you a lower plan, your app would lose some features that you have access to on the professional plan (even if you might not use them)

I thought it was forcing an upgrade!

Jici · 2024-09-11T16:15:58.550Z

This is very important because Bubble will move “legacy” plans to new WU automatically and may not choose the right plan. However, I totally understand why they recommend to use the Growth plan because actually, this app is on Pro plan. So this is totally fair from my Point of view. This user should have been on personnal plan probably if they don’t need pro plans features…

fede.bubble · 2024-09-11T16:19:08.868Z

I was also going to ask if this was a 1:1 comparison based on the feature set, not just the WU consumption

boston85719 · 2024-09-11T16:51:21.631Z

fede.bubble:

I was also going to ask if this was a 1:1 comparison based on the feature set

boston85719:

in this particular case, the app doesn’t need any of the highlighted features of the Growth plan from the below screen shot

So, I do not know if Bubble is doing a 1:1 based on feature set of what the app is using, but based on looking at the features highlighted to showcase differences between plans, in my comparison of what the app uses and what the plans offer, the app does not need to be on the Growth and can instead be on the Starter.

There is the chance Bubble is doing that though, as the app does have a 3rd branch, although not really used.

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I would say the only reason why I would potentially change the recommendation to use the Growth instead of Starter is for the extra 12 days of logs, which are not highlighted as a feature within the app itself, but is on the pricing page.

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georgecollier:

Oh, then yeah I think it’s doing the right thing.

Jici:

So this is totally fair from my Point of view

boston85719:

suggests to subscribe to the Growth plan at $134/month, with the main rationale as ‘this plan includes 250,000 WUs’ and does not provide any other reasoning for the suggestion, such the included features the app may need for its functionality.

I never said Bubble is doing anything wrong. The point is for Bubble to not just take the advice and to look at what the app needs or not.

Jici:

should have been on personnal plan probably if they don’t need pro plans features…

If not for the fact that 18 months ago everybody got scared into paying for a Pro plan to stay on legacy pricing so as to not have to deal with WUs when first introduced. But in reality, this app was optimized for WUs in August which brought the WUs down by a significant margin, I think by 10 fold as the previous month apparently was over 1 million WUs.

msgiblin · 2024-09-11T16:59:23.336Z

boston85719:

Instead, this particular app should be on the Starter plan for $32/month with an included 175,000 WUs, since the app only use 163,000 WUs in the last month, and if need be the app owner could subscribe to a WU tier 1 for an additional $29/month for an extra 200,000 WUs, meaning a total cost of maybe $61/month rather than $134/month.

In my opinion, the other large benefit to this approach (Starter + WU Tier 1) isn’t just the cost savings on the initial WU - it’s that adding that Tier also cuts the cost of WU overages in half ($0.15 / 1000 WU vs $0.30 / WU), making it much better for scaling and growth (if those other features on Growth aren’t needed)

ltapps · 2025-02-13T16:57:22.150Z

Im now in decission if to upgrade from starter to growth. I do not see reason. Bubble does not promise if performance will be better. WU are not so much problem more I care about performance with 500 users online. And they even dont mention in plans, I will pay 4x more for versions and longer backups? I need performance. We had boost button and I seen clear improvement. Now I dont know if/whe I change to growth if it is like boost 3 units or no?

Support avoids to answer. They just talk about WUs. Thanks for clarification if somone can advise…

Jici · 2025-02-13T17:14:25.091Z

Capacity Unit doesn’t exist anymore and your app should now run at “full speed”. Going to higher plan will not change anything related to speed. If you have issue with speed, it may be issue with app design.

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