Thank you, but also lets try not to skill shame. I know its tempting, but anyone who needs to improve will only improve if those around them constructively support it.
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Oh no, I’m not shaming anyone. Just pointing out that different use cases lead to different experiences.
fair.
This was available since a long time for you to test and the default experience was announced march 21 to first be released at the beginning of April but was finally delayed. They add a few features like the grid view on folders tab and they choose to release it now. But this should have been communicated differently I agree.
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Well-said. Discussed w/my partner this morning and decided we’d be on the lookout to migrate. I don’t feel like I can trust Bubble to do the right thing for their established customers anymore.
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YES, this is our livelihoods, it’s NOT a hobby. @kate.mcnally
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The info displayed on hover can occur in the old layout and doesn’t require an entire new layout for that.
Just curious, about how many workflows you have in your app?
Probably the new workflow editor is part of code migration, which puts a great baseline for new features bur it’s not well thought.
This was once a Figma design and many meetings later, nobody had the balls to say “yo this is unusable, let’s figure it out”.
And soon they’ll be like “this month churn has risen, lets fix it”
Another awesome feature of the new workflow editor is that it now resets when navigating to the option set tab which is so much fun!
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I feel we’ll be forced to do the same … do you have other options in mind ? would be happy to explore them
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Do you guys think that the Bubble team could read between the lines here ?
Huge thanks @tim12333
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tbh we haven’t looked in years. I’ll share when we do. But this move by Bubble makes us very nervous. Are the VCs calling the shots now, to the detriment of the power/legacy/pro devs? Everyone wants to go after the hobbyist dev market (oooh look how big it is!) but those folks don’t pay for their Bubble subscription like we do!
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I am so frustrated by this new interface, I have a lot of trouble getting to grips with it, I would so much like to be able to go back to my habits as before or we could choose our type of interface, our theme quite simply
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The above is one of the reasons why breaking long workflows into custom events is good practice. In native coding this is akin to nesting repeated code into functions and methods.
A good naming convention makes it easier to search for functions and methods. In this case enveloping workflows into named custom events.
Both also work the same when requiring the passing of evaluated data. In Bubble you can now easily back and forth between custom events and their triggers (top right corner when viewing a custom event)
Big thank you to @tim12333 for creating this amazing workaround: Left-to-right view mod in new workflow editor
The result below:
Before (what Bubble is “excited” about 
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After (what the community wants 
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Feedback from an experienced Bubble developer who spends at least 6 hours a day working with bubble.
After this new look became the only default, development productivity dropped dramatically! It’s almost impossible to work properly, and this comes at the worst possible time — right before the final release of a major project… There are simply no words. If something works and works well, it’s better not to touch it. There’s no need to change things just for the sake of change.
And why on earth was the ability to choose the tab design style removed? Please bring back the old workflows view! You can allow those who want to use the new one… but by default, people should have the choice!
Work is practically paralyzed now, and it takes a huge amount of extra time just to find anything. On top of that, browser resource consumption has increased, causing freezes due to excessive memory usage.
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There are some things I like about the new workflow editor, but overall, it’s a massive drop in productivity. And it’s not just due to an initial learning curve, reorganizing everything into folders, or having to remember the new way of doing things — it’s because the editor itself is just inefficient to use.
Someone mentioned earlier that it’s easier to see workflows and jump between them now, and I agree — but at the cost of way more mouse movement. Here’s what it looks like when I’m editing a workflow and want to switch to a different one:
- Think about which folder it’s in.
- Find that folder in the list.
- Move my mouse all the way to the left to select it.
- Move my mouse all the way back to the middle of the screen to start working again.
- Oops — wrong workflow. Repeat steps 1–4.
Even using the search tool (which, to be fair, works pretty well) still adds extra steps. Plus, when I open a folder, it stays open — so over time I end up having to scroll past tons of open folders or manually close them.
Trying to close or open a folder is its own frustration — you have to click the tiny little icon instead of just clicking the folder name.
How can you get so many things wrong with what should be a simple UI update?
I really want to love the new editor. But the small improvements don’t come close to outweighing the huge productivity hits.
Others have pointed out that workflows should be broken down into shorter pieces — and that’s true. But I have 500+ workflows and 100+ folders in the backend. Managing all that with the new workflow builder is so much harder than it used to be.
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???
I’m sorry, but using the search tool is perfectly fine. Click it, search, voila…
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Are you having performance issues with 500 wf ?
I apologise in advance for how crass I’m about to get but…
Bubble, please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please…
change this shit back. It’s impossible to do anything and has slowed down any production for us by basically 90%. At the very least just let us have the old workflow editor for longer whilst you fix the bug ensemble this new workflow tab is. The UI is beautiful, but I don’t think its UX was thought of at all.
- Why do workflow actions disappear on category hover when adding? This is so unnecessarily annoying.
- Where are the folder colours? Did no one think “Hey, maybe we should keep those as people actually did use them…”
- Why can’t I see all the conditions of workflows? That … is so physically aggravating it’s unexplainable, I don’t want to have to click every single workflow to work out what it does.
- That grid view is laughable and whoever did the UI for that really could not be f*cked to change too much.
- Can we get an actual grid view that’s perhaps a tad bit larger? And actually consists of squares? Mainly because I don’t want to get carpal tunnel again from scrolling through all these workflows, and I don’t want to have to choose between seeing more than 2 workflows or knowing what its conditions are.
Please, please, please terminate the right-click contextual menu of death. I can manage with it in the main editor, but goddamn the “fuck it, list trees everywhere” guy over there should probably slow down a bit as it’d just be nice to see everything all at once by just clicking a workflow like we could previously. This is the least annoying change, but anyway.
Finally, what is the actual point of this? I’d get it if it was a complete redesign, but all the actual workflow actions are old-school Bubble grey. If this is an investor move I promise you the churn rate might wobble their heads about this a little…
Rant over.
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