Unquestionably.
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For the 4D chess people trying to make sense, there is no sense. People, governments, companies can make mistakes, they are by nature human built systems and humans are prone to making mistakes. Company size, a man with a suit, vision, funding amount, GDP of a country, all can be a decoration. As a developer you need to be skeptical all times. This is just one more mistake, a mistake that indicates the wf editor team has lack of monitoring and testing, feedback systems, a team that takes radical initiatives and overall lack of communication with the community.
Solution : Collect more user data, listen to community. My personal opinion regulate wf editor team more and make it public, ( But this can affect company dynamics profoundly negatively )
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@georgecollier, that’s not the issue for me.
I’m highly organized, so this change hasn’t affected me in that regard. My main challenge is adjusting to the new top-to-bottom layout I’m used to moving from left to right. Also, the view itself is frustrating. It’s disappointing how much space is now taken up by a single workflow, especially when before, you could manage so much more in one view.
It feels like Bubble keeps changing the editor. One day something is here, the next it’s somewhere else, just for the sake of it. Then, they really had to put their heads together to figure out how to completely mess up the layout with this one.
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Hi everyone,
I’ve been reading through all of your comments over the past few days, and I want to start by acknowledging them. We hear you and the team is taking them seriously. We know we are asking a lot with these changes, and we recognize that they impact your current workflows.
This update includes necessary steps forward for the editor, laying the groundwork for future improvements, including support for features like loops and branching. It also allows us to migrate our tech stack to newer technologies that are necessary to keep the editor modern over time. We have tested this with many users, old and new, giving us a very high conviction that this is better - past the initial couple of weeks to adjust to the new system (and ideally start implementing folders).
However, there are a few things we can do to improve the UX, in particular for apps with many workflows (some of you have mentioned these above, thank you for the feedback). We are pushing two immediate changes we believe will make your experience easier:
- Conditionals are now shown by default.
- You can expand and collapse all folders, similar to the behavior in the Elements tree with groups.
We will continue to actively monitor your feedback and make adjustments where needed. Thank you for your continued input and patience as we work through this together.
Kate
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Thank you so much for this! Huge difference
thanks for listening good first step i hope other things are added such as:
some way for us to reduce mouse movement, which has probably 5xed compared to before.
e.g. dragging two workflows next to another to easily copy paste/compare
this also goes well with another big design flaw with the new editor: reducing white space
too small areas to click for a) clicking workflow on left b) clicking workflow actions c) clicking between workflow actions
edit: as i have seen in user interviews with the bubble design team: maybe its also a good time to reflect that the design team and many professional developers use bubble very differently.
i am hired cos i make 100 hard backendworkflows work and they add value to businesses with 10k-1M revenue.
this change reduces my productivity by a lot and therefore that of my client.
this is something the product department should maybe change. it cannot be that a design team is pushing changes every few months power users in majority are unhappy with as they reduce productivity.
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I just want to be able to edit, it takes 8-10 secs each click to wf editor everytime
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you are making assumptions
and in a condescending way, no need for that!
“you are not organized, i am, therefore this change is great and its your fault”
for example i have never used folders as for bubble the most effective way is naming workflows and grouping them together e.g. 001a 001b 001c for all payment workflows 002a 002b 002c for all salesforce api workflows.
in general it is an important skill to listen. its no problem you like this change, i like some of it too, but more than 20 people gave valid reasons and your response basically was, ah they must be unorganized bad developers.
a better response would be: “are you all using workflow folders?” atleast this allows an answer.
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Also, folders are useless. We need labels so that we can organise workflows better. One workflow doesn’t ostensibly fall under one folder only. Gmail introduced labels two decades back!
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I have over 400 reuseable elements and 500 backend workflows
Most of the reuseable elements and pages have less than 10 workflows each
Most of the workflows are 10 steps or less (majority about 5 steps or less)
Everything is named well and in folders
Simply naming and putting things in folders and breaking them down into reuseables and custom events does little to improve the new workflow editor experience.
The new editor isn’t all bad - there are some improvements I do like - but it is largely a downgrade and the rollout was not handled well at all.
Some things I do like:
- Triggered from
- Drag and drop of workflow steps is less buggy than before
- Event type filter
Overall I can see where they are going with the editor and I like the direction but it should have been QAd much more thoroughly before going live and the rollout should have had a better way for existing users to transition into the new layout - a simple defaulted horizontal view would have gone a long way to bridging the gap.
The general lack of QA in new features is what is concerning, having said that Bubble has a lot of technical debt to struggle through so I do empathize with their situation.
This about sums it up
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It’s not that deep - I share why it works well for us based on the way we build apps. People can choose to do the same, or they can choose not to. But the people here claiming that virtually everyone hates it are on a different planet (specifically, one where they don’t hear the people that are okay/fine/happy with it, because those people aren’t as vocal)
It’s dual responsibility though. Users shouldn’t expect Bubble to perfectly bring order out of their app’s chaos. Equally, Bubble should recognise that users use Bubble in different ways and there are plenty of existing apps that won’t have followed the conventions Bubble is now nudging people towards, and should support them appropriately.
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So Bubbles new vision is ‘‘no code for everyone that are organized’’ ?
Well, if you’d read what I said, you’d see that I said the opposite:
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Support can be supporting towards transition to using folders which means no code for organized
Welcome to coding. You can choose to have your code in a single gigantic vertical slice or organize them into imports, functions and methods.
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Hi Kate,
Thank you for acknowledging the community’s feedback on the new workflow design changes. While I appreciate the team is listening and aiming for future improvements like loops and branching, I must express my profound disappointment and disagreement with the current direction.
From my perspective, this new workflow tab has unfortunately dismantled the truly exceptional development experience that Bubble previously offered.
With the old workflow tab, development felt incredibly fluid and efficient. The only real limitations were often network speed or local machine lag. We could map out actions almost instantaneously, sometimes even faster than the interface could load – it was a remarkably comfortable and productive environment.
This seamless experience is now lost. The new workflow tab sacrifices the clear overview of events we once had, breaks the intuitive connection between workflows, and introduces unnecessary clicks. Honestly, after spending time with it, I am still struggling to identify any tangible improvements to the development process itself.
You might suggest this is just a matter of adjusting to a new system. However, I strongly believe this is not the case. I have been working intensively with Bubble for over six years, developing more than 30 business-scale applications. Throughout this time, I have consistently adapted to Bubble’s many changes and evolutions. My extensive experience leads me to conclude that this isn’t a ‘getting used to it’ problem; it’s a fundamental design issue that hinders productivity.
Frankly, I am skeptical that further tweaks and adjustments to this new design will win over developers like myself. The current usability is simply too cumbersome and counter-intuitive compared to what we had before.
Therefore, I need to ask for clarity. If the possibility of reverting to the previous workflow tab design is completely off the table, please state this clearly and definitively. This change, as it stands, will likely double the time required for development, directly impacting project costs and timelines. This forces us to seriously consider alternative development platforms and methodologies, a step I would be reluctant to take given my history with Bubble.
Thank you for considering this critical feedback.
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you are correct, but you dream big 
OK, but why do I need to click on a 4px chevron to open/collapse a folder instead of just clicking on the label? This is the most bizarre UX decision I have ever come across in a software product (not exaggerating).
More importantly, you can barely distinguish them, they are very low contrast against the white backdrop.
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I’m deeply disappointed with the direction Bubble has taken over the past couple of years.
Instead of making truly valuable features available to everyone — like the long-promised new mobile app editor or meaningful AI-assisted app editing — Bubble keeps endlessly redesigning the interface without actually adding new functionality.
I’ve been working with Bubble for 5 years. I got used to the horizontal workflows, and now I’m forced to relearn everything — and yet basic features like loops or graphic IF conditions are still missing.
In the last two years, there have been no meaningful updates. There was a lot of hype around AI, but after two years all I can do is generate one of eight basic page types — something that could have easily been added as simple templates, without any AI.
Meanwhile, if you insert a link to Bubble somewhere, you’ll proudly see “AI-powered” stamped on it.
Stop endlessly changing the UI, especially forcing those changes on users. Start delivering the new features you’ve been promising for years.
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