Exciting news: New workflow tab to become default experience

I think they are super stoked on icons and emojis. The issue with names and icons/emojis in the design canvas around names. I personally never change the name of the element, and I allow Bubble to autoname them for me for the most part it does it properly, but if I need to change it, I do not remove the words ‘Text’ or ‘Input’, but I recall a lot of other developers said they do and some seem to prefer emojis of shorter versions like Text becomes txt or Group becomes grp.

I could only imagine Bubble has some statistic stashed away somewhere the would indicate some 92% of users don’t keep the names that are autopopulated as to rationale why they dropped the autonaming from the workflows…or perhaps it is done intentional to open up some magical future functionality

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Yeah, I’ve never really understood this? Maybe they’re all being paid hourly!

I kind of just name ‘important’ groups (e.g a header, perhaps a specific card). If it has a workflow, it’s generally named so that instead of just being Group K it’s Group user card, for example.

Bubble has, with its default names, come up with an imperfect but universal naming convention which makes it easy for a dev to hop on an app and understand.

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Maybe I’m old, but I still can’t bring myself to use emjoi’s in anything. I had to tell ChatGPT to settle down writing technical documentation because one day it decided all my headers needed Emojis…

My naming convention in Bubble has always been ‘Element Type’ ‘Module Type’ ‘Description’ So Input Text becomes Input Inventory Inventory Description Which has drastically improved searching and editing.

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Mine usually goes something like “Default_element_name, Type - Identifier” eg. “Group, Table Header - Members”.

The comma and the dash help my brain separate the sections especially when I’m looking at a list of elements.

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I hate it every day. And I really, really wish I didn’t.
But there’s new bugs, inconsistencies and weird changes every day.
The list seems endless and thus is the frustration.
They just ran a bulldozer through decent, logical design and years of user muscle memory.

Frustration of the day:
You can still change the name of elements by clicking on the property editor header.
You can still do it for steps in a workflow too.
But you can’t do it anymore for the workflow itself.
You can’t even do it on the header on top of the steps, or by right clicking it, or in the menu.
No, just for the name of the workflow you now have to go to the top of the editor and change it there. Why?
In fact, the name of a custom event is now not even connected to the name of the workflow anymore. Are they now two separate things?

Also, changing the color of a workflow changes the color for all the steps in the workflow? Why?
It also makes all the already meaningless icons in front of steps and workflows even less readable.

If you want to copy/paste a workflow, you can’t right click on a folder to paste it in there. You have to paste it onto a random workflow within that folder as if you were pasting one workflow into another. Like, what? And if you use the free white space below the folders to right click and paste it goes into uncategorized, and now you have to go look for it.

I also miss the quick delete on a step.
(Why is backspace the keyboard shortcut for delete and not… delete?)

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Yeah agree, this is really annoying

Also that you can’t add a workflow step in between the steps. Or that’s how it seemed to me.

Earlier we could just add an action anywhere in between. Now we need to go to the end of the workflow, add a step there and drag it up.

While I am typing this I am thinking that maybe there would be a way to add a step in between as it would be very silly to not allow that. Maybe right clicking on an action might give that. I don’t know. Can’t check right now as editor is not open (as forum is open), and opening editor would mean waiting for a few minutes apart from closing quite a few tabs/windows.

You can always, like before, add a new step in the middle of workflow. When you hover an arrow between two steps, you will see a + icon instead of arrow.

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Except in “compact” mode.

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Just drag it into the right place, dragging is 100x less buggy than it used to be.

@kate.mcnally are there any improvements in the works or is this new workflow tab in it’s current state all we can expect?

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be interesting if Bubble did a decent poll of all users. Thumbs up or Thumbs down for the new editor. My guess it would be 80% thumbs down… I’m working with it but I hate it.

They already did.

Hmmm I missed that. Sounds a tad skewed if I may say… bearing in mind the amount of negative response here…

Someone did a poll in a related thread and while the picture paints a negative sentiment, the numbers are no where near Bubble’s stats.

It’s not to say the all of the criticisms here are invalid but stats are stats.

@kate.mcnally there is a bug where if I delete an action in a series that is the last in the series using the right click of a mouse to use the delete text, the action is not deleted and instead looks like the below

It took me 5 attempts of right click and pressing delete before giving up…then just for the fun of it all, I just left clicked onto the action and it finally went away.

The expected and desired behavior of right clicking the action and then selecting delete text button would be for the action to be deleted from the flow and view.

I’ve been using Bubble for about six months and worked with the old workflow editor for a month or so. Personally, I really like the new design. It looks and feels more intuitive, especially coming from tools like Zapier, Make, and n8n.

It also seems better suited for future features like loops and conditionals. I get that the change is frustrating for some, but from a newer user’s perspective, I don’t think all the negative feedback is justified.