# Invisible group showing

**URL:** <https://forum.bubble.io/t/invisible-group-showing/333289>\
**Category:** Bugs\
**Created:** [July 30, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/invisible-group-showing/333289 "2024-07-30T13:03:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![bojan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b782af/32.png) [@bojan](https://forum.bubble.io/u/bojan)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2024, 1:03pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/invisible-group-showing/333289/1 "2024-07-30T13:03:13Z")

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I have a reusable element that I planted on the index page.

- This element is visible on page load = false
- Conditional tab is empty
- Removed all HTML code from the element itself
- Cleared the HTML code from the Index page
- Checked all the workflows in the element, none should show it. I then deleted all the workflows from the reusable element
- Checked all the workflow in the page, none should show it.
- I added the reusable element to a completely new blank page with visible = false

And the element is still visible regardless of all of these. The only thing that works is specifically setting a condition, like Isn’t live version is yes \> This element is visible (false)

Has anyone else had this happened to them?

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/original/3X/2/8/2847faa74692c2ffa5d939d3dc3724cdd060d247.png) [@system](https://forum.bubble.io/u/system)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2024, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/invisible-group-showing/333289/2 "2024-08-13T13:04:01Z")

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Closed on August 13, 2024, 1:04pm UTC

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