# New guidance on using the Bubble name, logo, and other marks **URL:** \ **Category:** Announcements\ **Created:** [July 19, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781 "2018-07-19T14:13:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elisa](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/elisa/32/24265_2.png) [@elisa](https://forum.bubble.io/u/elisa)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/1 "2018-07-19T14:13:52Z")
Hello everyone! As part of the site redesign we’d like to announce the addition of some [Branding Guidelines](https://bubble.io/brand-guidelines) that you can use to inform your usage of Bubble marks, including our name and logo. These guidelines are intended to provide clarity on how to use the Bubble marks when marketing, providing, or referring to services developed on the Bubble platform. The goal is to strengthen the community and the development of a healthy ecosystem, while mitigating branding and legal risk to everyone involved. Please read more at the link below, and let us know here or via legal@bubble.is if you have any questions on these! We are here to help. > **[You don't need to be a coder](https://bubble.io/brand-guidelines)** > > Learn how to use and show the Bubble brand. Bubble is a point-and-click programming tool, entirely without code. Bubble hosts all applications on its cloud platform. ---
**Author:** ![lstk.kb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lstk.kb/32/163042_2.png) [@lstk.kb](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lstk.kb)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/5 "2022-12-19T15:39:12Z")
Hi I am a bubble developer from Ukraine. I have been working with the platform since 2018. I decided to create a community of bubble developers in Ukraine, so I bought a domain for 5 years, consonant with the bubble. I wanted to start my project from January. It’s a pity that I’m going to make a blog about the bubble not on the bubble, but on Wix. ☹ I can’t figure out why I can’t use the purchased bubbler.dev domain? What will you gain by this ban? ☹ ![Screenshot_4](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/original/3X/b/4/b4c852834b53ba0968916c9f2fd78ec8cae4625d.png) ---
**Author:** ![adamhholmes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/adamhholmes/32/100510_2.png) [@adamhholmes](https://forum.bubble.io/u/adamhholmes)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/6 "2022-12-19T16:07:29Z")
> [@lstk.kb](#): > > It’s a pity that I’m going to make a blog about the bubble not on the bubble, but on Wix. You mean you’re going to ignore the branding guidelines and use the domain anyway? (in any case I don’t think the forum is the place to ask for guidance on Bubble’s branding guidelines… maybe try reaching out directly to Bubble support)… ---
**Author:** ![lstk.kb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lstk.kb/32/163042_2.png) [@lstk.kb](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lstk.kb)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/7 "2022-12-19T16:26:19Z")
I want to understand why I can’t use this domain. Based on what law? ---
**Author:** ![adamhholmes](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/adamhholmes/32/100510_2.png) [@adamhholmes](https://forum.bubble.io/u/adamhholmes)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/8 "2022-12-19T16:33:31Z")
[Brand Guidelines | Bubble](https://bubble.io/brand-guidelines) ---
**Author:** ![bubble.trouble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@bubble.trouble](https://forum.bubble.io/u/bubble.trouble)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/9 "2022-12-19T16:57:20Z")
It is trademark law and is enforceable in certain countries/regions, less enforceable in others. It’s generally good practice to “play nice” with the requested branding restrictions. > [@lstk.kb](#): > > What will you gain by this ban? What they have to gain is not letting their trademark get diluted. If they allow it to be used loosely they can lose the ability to claim the TM altogether. This is all common knowledge that is available from some research if you are really interested in learning more about the method behind the madness. ---
**Author:** ![johnny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/johnny/32/203020_2.png) [@johnny](https://forum.bubble.io/u/johnny)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 4:58pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/10 "2022-12-19T16:58:57Z")
And… technically Bubble can just takedown your app😅 ---
**Author:** ![lstk.kb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lstk.kb/32/163042_2.png) [@lstk.kb](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lstk.kb)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/11 "2022-12-19T17:09:58Z")
I wanted to develop a community in Ukraine. I bought a domain for 10 years. For me, this is a big amount. It’s good that the account did not pay for the bubble. Thank you. For me this information is important. I do not want to face such a situation in the future. I didn’t think [bubble.io](http://bubble.io) = bubbler.dev Why then are they allowed to sell such domains? I bought it a month ago. ---
**Author:** ![mac2](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/mac2/32/87215_2.png) [@mac2](https://forum.bubble.io/u/mac2)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 5:12pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/12 "2022-12-19T17:12:52Z")
Ooof. Sorry to hear that you spent so much on this domain and can’t use it on Bubble. ---
**Author:** ![lstk.kb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lstk.kb/32/163042_2.png) [@lstk.kb](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lstk.kb)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 5:24pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/13 "2022-12-19T17:24:49Z")
Thank god I don’t have an app yet. ---
**Author:** ![ralphlasry](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/ralphlasry/32/249622_2.png) [@ralphlasry](https://forum.bubble.io/u/ralphlasry)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/14 "2022-12-19T18:26:26Z")
You can reach out to bubble and see if they would permit your specific name. (I dont think they will but you already spent the money so it cant hurt to ask them privately.) ---
**Author:** ![bubble.trouble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@bubble.trouble](https://forum.bubble.io/u/bubble.trouble)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/15 "2022-12-19T18:33:50Z")
I agree with @ralphlasry I can’t see why bubble would have any issues using “bubbler.dev”. Or create an app with a url like [bubbldev.com](http://bubbldev.com) (and yes I realize that is also against the branding restrictions, it is just an example) and then redirect bubbler.dev to that url from your domain registrar. I really can’t see Bubble having a problem with that. Bubble is generally restricting anything that uses “bubble” in the url and a few others in case anyone is wondering: ``` ["bubble-expert.com", "learnbubble.org", "createonbubble.com", "buildwithbubble.co", "triagebubble.com", "app.chatbubble.co", "buymeabubbletea.app", "buymeabubbletea.com"] _is_infringing() { return -1 !== this.name.indexOf("bubble") && !g.includes(this.name) } ``` where “g” is defined as the array above ---
**Author:** ![lstk.kb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lstk.kb/32/163042_2.png) [@lstk.kb](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lstk.kb)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/16 "2022-12-19T18:39:05Z")
![Screenshot_8](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/original/3X/b/e/be8e8b8368f5c66ad41f32cedde5a13d6af81825.png) ![Screenshot_9](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/original/3X/d/3/d31e152f2fa86431153d094041088d82cc81a119.png) ---
**Author:** ![bubble.trouble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7ba0ec/32.png) [@bubble.trouble](https://forum.bubble.io/u/bubble.trouble)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 6:40pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/17 "2022-12-19T18:40:24Z")
> [@bubble.trouble](#): > > Or create an app with a url like [bubbldev.com](http://bubbldev.com) (and yes I realize that is also against the branding restrictions, it is just an example) and then redirect bubbler.dev to that url from your domain registrar. see above. ---
**Author:** ![lstk.kb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lstk.kb/32/163042_2.png) [@lstk.kb](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lstk.kb)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/18 "2022-12-19T18:50:11Z")
Sorry, I will not do this without official permission from the bubble. The most important thing is that I am creating this site so that users in Ukraine can learn as much as possible about the bubble. A service that will contain translated documentation and video tutorials. ---
**Author:** ![troy.roberge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/troy.roberge/32/51507_2.png) [@troy.roberge](https://forum.bubble.io/u/troy.roberge)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/19 "2022-12-19T19:39:06Z")
Honestly I don’t think it matters what country you are from, they make this system, and they can decide how are user uses it. No amount of complaining will change anything. Frankly I like the policy, I would hate to have a bunch of websites called “[Bubblepro.com](http://Bubblepro.com)” and crap like that. ---
**Author:** ![lstk.kb](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lstk.kb/32/163042_2.png) [@lstk.kb](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lstk.kb)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2022, 7:54pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/20 "2022-12-19T19:54:29Z")
And how then to call the sites of bubble communities? If they so desire, there will be one less site that would advertise and popularize the bubble. I didn’t complain. I tried to understand why. I just saw a lot of sites with that name, now I checked and saw that they are not on the bubble. They use other technologies. ---
**Author:** ![ihsanzainal84](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/ihsanzainal84/32/245932_2.png) [@ihsanzainal84](https://forum.bubble.io/u/ihsanzainal84)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2022, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/new-guidance-on-using-the-bubble-name-logo-and-other-marks/33781/21 "2022-12-20T06:40:32Z")
I think it’s a great initiative that you have and should go ahead with building on a seperate platform to get it up and running! Heck even this forum is not running on Bubble.