[New Thread] More context on our changes to pricing - FAQs answered

The crazy thing I can’t get my head around is that we will go with “almost” no restrictions on actions in our apps, to having to worry about each button click, sign up, log in page refresh, and I’m not even talking about API calls…

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Oh boy, I bet last year pricing plan sounds less crazy now :rofl:

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I wanted to go back in time!

This pricing change doesn’t apply to dedicated servers, yet

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1 - Knowing which actions and API calls have the highest server consumption doesn’t mean that the billing method should be based on this. Bubble could have very well launched these metrics years ago without needing to change the pricing metric. One thing doesn’t justify the other. It’s just a tool that displays which workflows are causing higher consumption, and it could have been implemented a long time ago, having nothing to do with the abusive price increase.
2 - Bubble has always charged for server consumption throughout these years. Consumption hasn’t changed in the applications, but with this new metric, the prices have increased significantly… What is the logic for this? If they have always charged for server usage? Did they increase their profit by 10,000% overnight?
3 - We have 18 months to analyze and hope that Bubble will improve and become fairer… but what about new applications starting in May? So, are you admitting that this is entirely unfair? How am I going to disregard the WU for new apps starting next month?
4 - OutSystems charges $1500, but it has always done so… It’s different from charging $29, attracting millions of customers, and then abusively increasing the price by 4,000% to 10,000%, even though server costs remain the same.
5 - Hundreds of applications have always used 3% to 5% of the server capacity, and with the new prices, they will pay 10 times more. So, they have criminally increased their profit tenfold?

6 - This is the end of Bubble. Over 90% of the community will leave in the coming months. There are dozens of alternatives, such as: Flutterflow (where you can have the source code), WeWeb, Dittofi, Wappler, Glide, Bildr… and many others. We’re only here because redoing years of work is very complicated. But we’ll do it with pleasure! Because we know that in a year, Bubble will no longer be alive!

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In my case, price increased 40x

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Already created my account on Flutterflow. This can be the end of Bubble due to the most redic ridiculous pricing change I have ever seen. Been here now about ±3 months, got 4 paying apps on Bubble, but know will move here before it is getting even more worse. Thanks for the trust Bubble.

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Same here, never tried any other alternative before, as Bubble seemed perfect (still is modulo new pricing). Since announcement, I tried FlutterFlow, Bildr, Noodl and WeWeb!

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Really bizarre findings when digging around in those logs. I mean, what on earth is this? Pages that don’t exist, blog?wordpress?2019? none of these pages ever existed in my app. Granted this only adds up to 100 WU or so, but x30 days = 3000 WU a month. I’m being charged for this? eh?.

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Thanks Bubble!!! I found another option much, much better!!! Great idea kicked your customers!!! I’m just outraged at having lost 3 years betting on a platform that doesn’t respect its customers and act extremely unintelligently and negligently, I believe that arrogance has gone to the founders’ heads! It is unfortunate that human beings are caught by base instincts.

It makes no sense to invest in a platform that, instead of encouraging the use of applications, restricts end users with costs that are absolutely incompatible with the market.

Naturally, they should create a way to charge for consumption, as many Players do, but they made a mistake approximately 100 times!!! Ridiculous!!!

Success to the other bubblers in finding a serious alternative that allows the growth of their solutions with the right partners!

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Our ERP generates 54M WFUs/mo. Without expansion and some optimizations, I guesstimate we could get that down to the low 40s.

The dedicated plan might make sense for us and we could swing it, but I’d be looking over my shoulder for the impending price adjustments.

Also, I don’t want to pay that much. I’d rather pay a flutterflow dev for changes to progress my app vs. a platform to improve theirs.

I think you’re correct, but not quite to enterprise level. I think semi-enterprise an up is more like it. Based on the client examples Bubble gave in their reasoning for the new pricing, it feels like they’re doing a ‘clawback’ of the time they saved me developing my app. They got me this far, now I owe them or else.

Also, if the Plugin devs take their toys and go home, i’m hosed! I paid for those so I didn’t have to do lower level dev.

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I understand that Bubble is chancing their pricing, of course, as many other companies do. Maybe see a 10%, 20% or a max as 30% add on the current plans, that would be affordable, but would still be a big increase.

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this is much more sensible!

there should not be a tax on tinkering as a dev or on basic sites with 100 users but currently even with 100 users you are priced out of bubble.
in that case i just leave to other solutions.

this suggestion solves that problem and worry to build at too high capacity!

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@tatiana.a I am seriously worried about this change. My app has been on the $29.00 a month since the start and I am only just starting to breakeven in revenue/running costs. My stats now show that my app has run 2,345,481 Workload for the last 30 days…This would mean that my monthly cost of $29 would have to move to $299 a month which is a 10x increase and will simply make my app not viable and I will have to just shut up shop. I know this isn’t huge money but as a start-up this is an absolute killer for me. Either I am misunderstanding something here or I worries are correct and I need to start looking at an alternative solution?

Help needed please

Julian

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What option you’re switching to?

Qual plataforma?

Please share it @alexandre10 :wink:

You’ve posted this screenshot 4 hours ago, now it looks like this:

This CONFIRMS the shift in customer base, while we are outraged in the little forum, bubble guys are actively working on the revamped landing page!!!

Their focus is no longer us and no longer the democratization of software - now we know that was all made up marketing that we wrongly believed.

They are in reality very much a capitalist organization with the mindset of chasing pennies.

And the fact that we’re being disregarded while they are working on the landing page confirms that.

Also, the fact that we’re allowed to have a thread open in their own forum looking at alternatives confirms that.

You dear bubble users have been disposed of - purposely.

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Unfortunately, i think you need to use Tier 3

And now, here is what I’d of done if I was bubble trying to chase the pennies:

  • I’d of ban and remove all payment plugins
  • I’d of create a fully featured internal payment system that every app must utilize, I’d of call it Bubble Payments
  • I’d start enforcing and warning apps that try to go around Bubble Payments
  • I’d introduce 10% fee on all transactions and increase it 5% year over year until it reached 25%

In this version now bubble owns 25% of revenues and their success depends on yours.

Everyone succeeds together.

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