Really low perfomancce score on Google PageSpeed

Hey there!

So I used PageSpeed insights from Google and got a low score for this page

Mobile results


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Desktop results

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And this is already after I have optimized the page :disappointed_relieved:
I haven’t found anything in the network tab, I’m not even doing a ā€˜Do a search’ on that page!

So I made a new page and added One repeating group with text from a list of option sets I have.
https://www.allpokemon.info/speed-test
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Mobile results


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Desktop results

How can it be that on an empty page with only a repeating group, the pages get such low scores, especially on mobile?
Help :sweat_smile:

I also want to clarify:

  • I do not qtore anything heavy in option sets
  • my current user datatype has only one field
  • There is no search happening
  • I have took out all the plugins that i do not need
  • I use styles for most of my elements
  • Headers only add scripts for google tag manager and some small css

Welcome to Bubble :rofl:.

Improving this has been a priority for the Bubble team for a long time. They mentioned improving it in 2024 during BubbleCon. At the moment and from my experience, there’s not much you can do to get scores above 50 even with a bunch of optimization.

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I thought this year they launched a few updates toward page load speed, I didn’t know it was this bad!

Yeah 50 is not great, wow I really hope someone else comments in this post they have managed a higher number! :dizzy_face:

34 is really good used to be hard to get above 20! :smiley:

Oh dam, so I really need to move this project into Wix or something more advanced for SEO :roll_eyes:

Dont move the entire project in WIX just move the landing page, this will optimize your SEO score.

Note ; Haven’t done it myself seen some people do this on twitter.

The thing is it is not just my landing page
It’s few dynamic pages, so I need access to my database :confused:

Thinking to move only those profile pages and then add a subdomain to my bubble app

So are you gonna opt this methode or not?

Sorry i made a typo before
I meant it is not just my landing page, it’s 3 pages with dynamic content in it

Not sure yet if I will move to Wix yet
Wix have their own CRM and I then need to import all my database there so I could use it

Another option is create the pages only and then use WIX API to call my bubble database

I might end up using Weweb and bubble db in that case…

I’m not sure yet whats the option yet

Use Bubble’s DB and not front end?! :exploding_head:

Unpopular opinion… I don’t care much about Google Pagespeed anymore. Years ago, yeah… it seemed to have an effect on SEO (and I’m sure it still does play a part… but who knowsā€¦ā€œEverythingā€ is important for SEO… But no one can tell you exactly how much you should invest in it vs. the returns you’ll make).

Now-a-days, I care more about having great high quality content than spending hours optimizing for things like Google Pagespeed - Which does seem to change it’s criteria frequently. You may get a 70 one day… and a 40 the next if they change some things up. Moving target… for questionable returns. (Now if they said ā€œyou get a 100, you’re gonna get 500 more people on your app!!ā€, that would be something!! But alas, it’s all ambiguous)

Not to discredit your concern or derail this convo - I do see some value in Google Pagespeed… Just would hope this doesn’t slow down progress on getting your app launched and people using it and making some money! :slight_smile:

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I’m actually going to agree with you.

As someone who spent time learning Qwik (gets 100% in all categories in mobile and desktop)

    • I’d say core web vital scores are 10% or less of importance.

Moving forward google is trying to capture real intent and real answers. So providing high quality content users interact with will lead you to ā€œorganic SEO growthā€.

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I have become the same way. I used to spend hours trying everything I could to optimize apps, even gutting features for less data load for slightly faster (fractions of a second page load) to get a better score, but when I would have meetings with clients and I would always ask how they thought the speed of things were and rarely did I ever get anything other than ā€œit seems to be pretty fastā€.

Not saying there can’t be improvements, but I realized I was focusing to much time and effort on things my clients weren’t concerned with.

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It’s not near as important to SEO as it is user interaction. After 2-3 seconds bounce rates increase dramatically. We had a client site that was loading so much data on page and popups ā€œpreloading dataā€ that load times were 20+ seconds and had an 83% bounce rate according to google analytics. Once we removed data preloading popups & corrected some of their structure bounce rates MTD are 41%.

They drove 699k users at an 83% bounce rate. That means 580k left within moments of the page load starting and never actually interacting. 119k/699k users actually not bouncing is atrocious. Bear in mind this app was heavily reliant on paid ads meaning in theory 83% of their marketing dollars were going to waste due to bad site optimization.

Google also doesn’t rank as heavy for load speeds as they used to, it’s still a direct factor but 5 yrs ago it was far more important for direct ranking in SEO. However your bounce rate, pages viewed per session, avg user time, etc do heavily impact SEO and are a direct result of page load speeds (which is why google reweighted load speeds as a main SEO factor and started using user interaction results instead).

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Oh that great to hear, I really appreciate your answer!

For the moment the project is live and I won’t be moving it in the near future a that’s for sure

I will keep an eye in GSC and see how the project evolves, thanks for the insights again! :slight_smile:

Thanks everybody for their insights regarding SEO and page load, really appreciate it! :slight_smile:

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