# Visible element not visible according to Bubble **URL:** \ **Category:** Bugs\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/visible-element-not-visible-according-to-bubble/160747 "2021-07-20T12:53:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 3\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Louis-1832](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/louis-1832/32/63601_2.png) [@Louis-1832](https://forum.bubble.io/u/Louis-1832)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 12:53pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/visible-element-not-visible-according-to-bubble/160747/1 "2021-07-20T12:53:30Z")
Any ideas why an element (a floating group) could be visible in preview mode even though the Bubble debugger says the element isn’t visible? Or is Bubble here referring to the visibility on page load (set as not visible)? I’m using workflows based on visibility of elements in the floating group and the workflows are not working, possibly because Bubble is wrongly recording the elements as not visible. ![bubblebug.](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/original/3X/3/0/308f545a8a14a3d73822cd4e1b3936523a35e3c6.png) ---
**Author:** ![johnny](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/johnny/32/203020_2.png) [@johnny](https://forum.bubble.io/u/johnny)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 6:32am UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/visible-element-not-visible-according-to-bubble/160747/2 "2021-07-21T06:32:28Z")
Hi there @Louis-1832, Are there any conditionals making it appear? Are there any workflows running that might show the floating group element? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/original/3X/2/8/2847faa74692c2ffa5d939d3dc3724cdd060d247.png) [@system](https://forum.bubble.io/u/system)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2021, 12:54pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/visible-element-not-visible-according-to-bubble/160747/3 "2021-08-03T12:54:06Z")
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