# Why can't I "create a New Thing" in Type USER? **URL:** \ **Category:** Need help\ **Created:** [January 30, 2016, 11:57am UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/why-cant-i-create-a-new-thing-in-type-user/1366 "2016-01-30T11:57:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![lonetour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lonetour/32/536_2.png) [@lonetour](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lonetour)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 11:57am UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/why-cant-i-create-a-new-thing-in-type-user/1366/1 "2016-01-30T11:57:13Z")
Why can’t I “create a New Thing” in Type USER? I have a field for User called “Series”. I have a dropdown box for Series. I want to be able to add to the things in the Series by using an input popup box. For any other DataType, this is simple. In the workflow, just create a new thing. But the Create a New Thing dialogue box does not have “User” as a possible choice. Why not? ---
**Author:** ![lonetour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lonetour/32/536_2.png) [@lonetour](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lonetour)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/why-cant-i-create-a-new-thing-in-type-user/1366/2 "2016-01-30T12:07:25Z")
What I am trying to replicate is on the Forum App: 😅 @georgeciobanu > **[Bubble Editor - Forum\_app](https://bubble.io/page?type=page&name=artist_create_step2&id=forum_app&tab=tabs-1)** > > Build stuff without code and launch a startup without a tech-cofounder! Bubble is a visual programing language. Instead of typing code, use a visual editor to build applications. but instead of a DATA TYPE Artist, I want a DATA TYPE User. ---
**Author:** ![emmanuel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/emmanuel/32/27657_2.png) [@emmanuel](https://forum.bubble.io/u/emmanuel)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/why-cant-i-create-a-new-thing-in-type-user/1366/3 "2016-01-30T13:41:45Z")
The reason why you can’t do this is because of the password. It’s not a usual field, requires hashing for security reasons, etc. But we have an action for this. It’s called Create an account for someone else. That creates a user with a random password (for instance), that users will have to change on their first connection. ---
**Author:** ![lonetour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/lonetour/32/536_2.png) [@lonetour](https://forum.bubble.io/u/lonetour)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/why-cant-i-create-a-new-thing-in-type-user/1366/4 "2016-01-30T13:57:45Z")
Is there somewhere I can read more about this? I’m trying to follow @georgeciobanu 's advice on how to work my site, but know nothing about the differences between User data and other data fields. ---
**Author:** ![emmanuel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/emmanuel/32/27657_2.png) [@emmanuel](https://forum.bubble.io/u/emmanuel)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/why-cant-i-create-a-new-thing-in-type-user/1366/5 "2016-01-30T14:10:48Z")
This covers a little bit at the end [https://bubble.io/chapter/saving-and-displaying-things-1380579009351x795796172693371800](https://bubble.io/chapter/saving-and-displaying-things-1380579009351x795796172693371800) The main difference is that you create them with a different action, and that email is used for authentication, with a password. Beside this, it’s very similar. ---
**Author:** ![mente12](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/bubble/user_avatar/forum.bubble.io/mente12/32/30410_2.png) [@mente12](https://forum.bubble.io/u/mente12)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://forum.bubble.io/t/why-cant-i-create-a-new-thing-in-type-user/1366/6 "2017-06-29T21:30:12Z")
To avoid a wield chase… Could this be the reason for this: 1. In the Database tab the User table shows 13 users 2. but a Do Search Users:Count returns 3 users only Could it be that those users where created manually in the database tab? (I received this project from another developer. So I don’t know how they were created.) Seems to be the case when I create users directly. They are not searchable.