I’m not sure I agree with your total assessment here, but maybe we’re saying the same things in different ways.
Bubble created the editor, that’s value add that we should pay for. I agree with you there.
Bubble also created all the infrastructure topology that utilizes AWS. That’s value add, and we should pay for it.
Bubble also plays the role of SRE and monitoring the health of the infrastructure, making improvements to it over time, and keeping the lights on. That feels like value add to me, and we should pay for it.
I think the “pay for what you use” model is a really great model, I truly do. The units and scale may need to be adjusted, I won’t argue with that, but philosophically, I think it makes sense that we would be paying for more than just the editor. Maybe I’m misunderstanding your concept?
Estamos vendo o Bubble fazer exatamente tudo aquilo que evitamos fazer com nossos clientes. Se um de meus prestadores de serviço se comportasse como a equipe do Bubble, eu os desligaria do meu negócio na velocidade da luz.
Parece que há alguém dentro do Bubble muito poderoso e, proporcionalmente, desentendido do negócio. Coincidência ou não, esse desespero do Bubble por alterar o método de cobrança começou após o investimento de 100 milhões que o Bubble recebeu em julho de 2021. Em março de 2022, eles tentaram aquele método de cobrança louco que eles mesmos reconheceram e desistiram.
Eu simplesmente estou cansado disso tudo! Não sei se todos estão entendendo a situação, mas o fato de eu ou qualquer um aqui aceitar esse novo método não significa que nossos aplicativos vão continuar funcionando nos próximos meses.
Hoje, quando olho para trás, agradeço por ter aprendido com o susto do ano passado. Perdi a confiança no Bubble e, consequentemente, recusei novos projetos. Sinto um alívio hoje, pois se tivesse aceitado alguns projetos, estaria desesperado agora.
Okay its be displaying based off your location it seems. I see this (I am in the US). Blue numbers at the top also are using , as the thousandths separator
Whats also going to be fun moving forward is that every time any solution is offered on this forum it will now be prefaced with “but I’m not sure how it may or may not affect your WU”. This is just one small of so many ways the new price plan is going to affect everyone.
After closely observing user feedback over the past few days, I would like to share some thoughts on the recent pricing changes:
Methodology for decision-making: Basing the decision solely on numerical data may not provide a comprehensive understanding of your user base. It is important to delve deeper into these numbers, as the 8% of affected users might represent those with successful apps and high engagement. Additionally, many users on the $250/month tier may have chosen it due to specific feature requirements.
Optimization of features: It would be advisable not to consider unoptimized Bubble features as Workload Units (WU) until they are fully optimized and ready for efficient use.
Education and support: Before implementing new pricing based on WU, it would be beneficial to provide guides, educational resources, and expert training on optimization to your user base. This will ensure users understand how to make the most of the platform while minimizing their costs.
Workload tiers: Rather than implementing subscription-based workload tiers, consider offering one-time packages or a flat rate fee for WU. This would provide more flexibility for users with varying workload requirements.
Feature optimization: Introducing a “GET thing” action could help users retrieve records more efficiently, as opposed to using more expensive operations like “make changes to a thing.” It is crucial for Bubble to optimize its features before charging users for potentially unoptimized usage.
Maybe Bubble leaders are enjoying their great easter holiday while we users are panicking. Nice easter gift indeed. Last easter - exactly a year ago - I was fighting against bug due to an update they made just before holidays. What next year?
At this point it’s not just threats. This isn’t the first time this has happened and all alternatives give us much more control. Instead of handling this themselves they threw in a VP of marketing who joined the forum 4 hours ago for the first time who is likely just here for damage control and PR.
Anyone who stays after this is just waiting until the next time this happens again.
Also bubbles new pricing model and active marketing seems to still target new devs but once they build even the most basic features price will 10x. Bubble seems to be moving to a bait and switch approach and banking on people staying through sunk cost fallacy.
Indeed. What alternatives would you suggest? Really don’t want to give up my Bubble application but it seems there’s not much other solution. I’ve looked at Flutterflow but not sure if it’s 100% the right option.
There’s a separate thread HERE where the discussion about suitable alternatives is happening. If possible, could we keep the discussion of alternatives there? It makes it easier to find if it’s all in one place.
Yup me too. Just saw one listing a Jessica Young who is Founder & CEO which disappeared as I looked at it. Apparently there’s a third founder now. Let’s see if they remove this too. Are they trying purposely to piss people off?!
Haha yeah I still see people asking things like “How to run a workflow when user opens the app”.
Dude, are you not seeing the massive thread about how the whole platform is crumbling?!! It is of no significance how you run a workflow at this point.
