We’re likely going to be moving our front end to React. I don’t know of any other no code tool that has all the features we need. It really sucks because I’d love to stay on Bubble, but it’s completely untenable at this point.
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Looking at FlutterFlow… The API connector is huge in almost all my projects. It looks like FlutterFlow doesn’t support the same type of ‘create a datatype via json schema’ that bubble does. Any insight on this?
Yes!!! This is nuts, when you actually look at the details and dig deeper, you discover something you never want to see in a framework or a full-stack platform the purpose of which first and foremost is to provide a stable and functional environment. You don’t see this crap with projects running on Vercel or even 20+ code repos that we are running on our own Railway account.
Let me know if you need a dev for that 
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This is a good point, I’ll need to look into this deeper, when I was building in FF, i mostly did only simple POST/GETs in their API connector.
I have lost 67% of my revenue in the last 6 months from instability. However, I currently don’t have any time to invest the proper resources to move my app away from Bubble, so for now I’m giving out discounts like candy trying to keep anyone else from leaving.
I’m confident that Bubble will become stable, but when is the question. Hopefully soon.
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Yes good point, I got semi acquainted with it and saw potential but because they are so new, it’s hard to go all in on it like with Bubble or other older and more established low-coders.
Thats terrible. Not going to lie. If that’s the case I would not stick around. Depending on a single outlet for your revenue is not ideal.
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Wow, that deep, and yeah we are in the same boat, I can’t afford to forego opur roadmap for the next 90 days to do a full rewrite and massive migration, but it’s always the opportunity costs and potential other hidden factors that come back to bite the butt the most.
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Now I’m trying to put end to this f* nightmare
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I’ll be sharing updates here
Bubble Down May 8th
but to reiterate: all the downtime this week is connected. Unfortunately it looks like we’ve run into an adversary out there that wants to disrupt Bubble very badly.
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Bubble should have an Outage UX team and build solutions for our main pain points during outages, such as:
Automatically re scheduling scheduled workflows if they didn’t trigger during an outage, or somehow handling them (Vote here: Automatically re schedule scheduled workflows that didn't trigger becuase of a Bubble outage | Bubble).
Displaying a user friendly outage error message page to our users (Vote here: Display a user friendly error message for our users during outages (branded or not branded by us) | Bubble).
Create a new workflow/conditional “When Bubble is presenting a partial or major outage”. (Vote here: Create a new workflow/conditional "When Bubble is presenting a partial or major outage" | Bubble)
Collect feedback and you’ll find much more.
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I agree with @chris.williamson1996 - unlikely to leave completely in the short term, but as it’s currently running this isn’t a viable tool for most businesses with high usage.
Specifically, if you’re powering other businesses with Bubble right now and their business goes down when Bubble does, you’re (i) refunding monthly fees because you’re tripping your own uptime guarantees and (ii) spending most of your time fielding customer support emails from clients who are angry about something you didn’t cause and don’t control.
So would I leave a platform that’s causing me to have no monthly revenue and spend all my time apologizing for things I didn’t do? Yes. Yes, I would.
I’ve always been a big fan of Bubble and have been pretty supportive publicly in the 7 years I’ve been building here, but if there were a viable alternative to all of the Bubble functionality we use we’d already be working on transitioning off the platform.
Longer term, I would expect AI to bring the cost of traditional development down to a level where most business users will transition off Bubble to traditional stacks. If our clients stay with us that long.
For now, our first step has been to direct new projects elsewhere and stop all new feature development completely until Bubble can stabilize the platform.
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Yeah, because right now it basically looks like unhandled errors, and these are practically a given that they don’t exist in big tech nowadays. You always need to be failing safely and handling all corruptions gracefully, and Bubble is just about the worst in doing this.
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Well said
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Yes, perfectly put here. The title of thread was a bit more of a inspirational click bait but yeah, I think the topic is resonating and we need more statements from Bubble and much better tools for these issues than their Bubble Status page.
It’s a shame, I’ve spent time learning to develop in bubble, I’ve spent money and I’ve thrown away the project I was pushing for now.
done.
only @keith can save us
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The demeanor here feels rather immature. Yes, disruptions can be irksome, but creating a thread or topic like this one seems a bit excessive and childish. Let’s not blow things out of proportion over minor inconveniences and rally behind #StandwithBubble.
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Clearly you haven’t lost money to this nor have you read the thread 
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