It’s getting quite ridiculous with the outages, how is this not being addressed in an adequate manner? It used be that the editor could act up or an occasional frontend outage, but this is something else entirely. wtf.
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I believe a lot of us are looking for alternatives. I’ve consulted a few clients who already moved their backend to Xano after WU thing. Many are looking to replace frontend as well due to reliability and speed. Migrations are slow though because people have built huge products and especially for frontend because it doesn’t hit the pocket as much as backend
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Yeah exactly, we have two different projects in production and with multive developers, different editor tabs and then front end previews already being quite slow, adding the constant outages to it is insane
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You actually realize the speed difference when you try other platforms. Its enormous.
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I understand the frustration but I don’t see the point on this kind of topic honestly. Are you all just trying to vent?
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Their clusters are constantly being pushed to limits and they are not scaling them properly because if you notice the symptoms that happen is indicative of overloaded servers and subsequent crashing
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Anyone have any other tools they have tried and had success with?
No, trying to force change.
FlutterFlow is a very similar setup and WeWeb is a clean migration.
For me personally, leaving completely? No.
Utilizing other platforms more heavily by the day, yes.
Bubble has its place but it’s shrinking more and more by the day as other platforms innovate and bubble keeps letting things like this happen.
Since I had a massive DB bug that had us lose TONS of customer data roughly 2 yrs ago with no way to recover even with supports assistance while a bug with restoring happened I’ve ensured all of my clients starting to scale keep backends elsewhere but with the new WU model even storing clones of your database is becoming too expensive. They’re really aiming for full platform locking but can’t even keep the platform from going down 
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At this point we’re honest about moving. A lot of people have already moved and a lot are planning the transition
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Can anyone speak to the alternatives that provide as much functionality?
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Actually, I do find it interesting to discuss and read about this topic. I haven’t explored this subject before, but it’s clearly a significant factor in deciding whether to use a service or not
I agree, bubble is still a good tool overall but we need to rely on other tools probably if we want to sustain. It’s a need tbh now
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The % isn’t accurate, or at least they make the numbers look as favorable to themselves as possible. Just doing some simple math:
1 of the 6 listed outages on April 24 lasted 3 hours 22 minutes (16:17 - 19:39). There are 2,160 hours in a 90-day period. 3.37/2160 = 0.0015, or .15%. If 99.48% is correct, then the claim is that 1 outage accounted for ~1/3 of the downtime. Granted, that was a particularly long outage, but given the volume of outages this seems highly unlikely. This doesn’t even account for missed outages (of which there seem to be plenty).
They also removed the stat on that page showing the total outage time for that day. Today is also only considered a “light green” day, despite there being 4+ outages.
Doesn’t scream tranparency to be quite honest.
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Thank you for sharing Chris, this is very helpful. We’ve essentially been doing the same and migrating partially to Supabase but still all in on frontend with Bubble. But now this frontend is turning into a side-end with micro horrors so real decisions need to start being made. It’s not even clear what Bubble is doing about this, leaves much to be desired there as well in terms of feeling comfortable that at least they are will alleviate these issues soon.
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No good carpenter works with a single tool 
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Weweb is not good. It doesn’t even have branches, how do you plan to work on production grade apps? Bubble is not that bad that we move to WeWeb
Even if the point is just to vent, venting serves a purpose. If enough people are using the forum to vent, it probably means that they’re not happy with at least one aspect of bubble. I sincerely hope that the team understands this and takes it to heart.
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