@sudsy Sorry to ping you twice in one night. However, Iām wondering if you could explain the relative benefits of using link elements vs workflow actions to navigate via the Sudsy plugin. Iām realizing that the solution suggested in my last post would require me to rely on workflows for most intra-page navigation. Iāve read suggestions that links are better from an SEO perspective, but donāt quite understand why that would be. Please forgive me if youāve addressed this elsewhere.
Hi @ts11,
Looks like your persistence paid off with this issue. Nice going!
First off, Iām no SEO expert.
What I do know, though, is that link elements result in actual HTML anchor tags <a> in the DOM (rendered page), which Google can āseeā and thus utilize to glean info about site structure. Bubble actions, OTOH, are just JS code and provide no information about document or site structure.
Also, from a UX perspective, browsers treat links a bit differently. Sometimes this is desirable and sometimes not. For example, most browsers show the full destination URL when the link is hovered. Itās precisely the browser-specific UI handling of links that some devs who are creating SPAs (especially those intended for conversion to native mobile app) prefer to use the navigation action instead - i.e. the clickable element wonāt ābehaveā like a link. Sudsy Page provides both options, and the end result - i.e. intra-page navigation without page reload - is of course the same.
Hope it helps,
-Steve
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Hi Sudsy! Have a weird bug to report.
In my app (app.swapstack.co), Iām getting an error, but only in some situations related to viewing the page on mobile. Itās a little hard to show you without having an account, so Iāve recorded a loom for you.
Full Error text:
run.js:8 Action Go to URL via SudsyPage A - The plugin Sudsy Page / action Go to URL via a Sudsy Page threw the following error: TypeError: e.data.navTo is not a function
at eval (PLUGIN_1551900316693x963780318009229300/Sudsy-Page-element_action--Sudsy-Page-Go-to-URL-via-.js:3:8)
at https://dhtiece9044ep.cloudfront.net/package/run_js/6d23fc2ā¦/xfalse/x15/run.js:8:1207345 (please report this to the plugin author)
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at eval (PLUGIN_1551900316693x963780318009229300/Sudsā¦, element_instance: null, action: t.exports, code: '1650669966195x702439546317152400'}
action: t.exports {json: e, A: {ā¦}, _field_names: {ā¦}, get_static_property_run_cache_1_param: Ę}
code: "1650669966195x702439546317152400"
element_instance: null
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[[Prototype]]: ObjectHi @jacob.b.singer,
Check to make sure the SudsyPage element is not inside a reusable or other container that gets hidden. The page root is generally the best place for it. Attempting to use a plugin action when the plugin (or the container in which it resides) is hidden is the only situation in which Iāve seen a similar error. Although the SudsyPage element is āheadlessā, it must be āvisibleā in order to use its actions.
-Steve
Thank you! Really appreciate that.
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Iām unable to use debug mode with sudsy page. The url query string is immediately removed on page load. Is this expected behavior?
Hi @aj11,
If the URL is changing, itās because Bubble logic is explicitly changing it, so check your workflows. SudsyPage does nothing ābehind the scenesā in that regard. Iāve debugged URL has changed events without issue.
As you noted, debug mode is enabled by a simple query string parameter, so if itās needed, it must be added to any relevant URLs. I suppose one could even add it conditionally to all test mode URLsā¦
Of course, depending on your setup and URL structure and whether or not youāre using other query string params, it might not be quite that simple; but the point is that the URL is whatever the Bubble logic says it should be.
Having said all that, I personally donāt use Bubbleās debugger much at all, so if youāve encountered a particularly tricky debugging issue, feel free to elaborate and perhaps others might have suggestions.
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Got it, thanks! Must have a wildcard url change happening somewhere on page load.
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This ended up being some kind of Bubble thing where is the page width is below a certain size then it auto strips the query string for the debug mode and disables it. Nothing to do with Sudsy.
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Interesting! I might have noticed that while checking responsive behavior at various times, but I guess I never paid close enough attention to discern the actual behavior.
Thanks for pointing it out!
Hi @sudsy! Thank you so much for your effort here!
I decided to use your plugin in order to build a SPA including SEO-friendly URLs. I first configured everything with Bubbleās LINK element, but I am realizing now that these LINKs are not Google SEO friendly indeed, because they are not crawled. Can you please confirm whether it would be necessary that I implement BBCode or HTML tags vs Bubble LINK element?
On the other hand, I am thinking whether to use BBCode links (if Bubble LINK is not convenient for Google), but I do not understand the steps required for sudsy to recognize < a > refs that you mention in the documentation:
SudsyPage automatically ārecognizesā native Bubble Link elements. To enable SudsyPage to work with other anchor < a > tags on the page (such as those inside an HTML element or within a Text element containing BBCode (from Bubbleās Rich Text Editor), enter a CSS attribute selector into this field.
Can you please help me there? What is the CSS attribute that you refer to?
Thank you in advance
Sorry, but I could not get this solved with the links you gave.
If I include a link using a BBCode inside a ātextā element, clicking on it will always reload the page even though it is going to the same page. This will not happen if I include the link inside a ālinkā element. Is there a way to do so? Can you please provide some steps?
I just include the target self to open in the same tab and not new, but it does not change the effect that sudsy does not avoid reloading the page.
Thank you in advance
Correct. Sudsy Page is only aware of native Bubble Link elements by default. Is there a reason you canāt simply use a Bubble Link element?
The only other option is to use the advanced Link Selector feature to which I already pointed.
That feature requires knowledge of attribute selectors (as described in the docs). Some knowledge of Chrome dev tools might come in handy as well. The Sudsy Page docs also include links to external documentation on MDN which goes into more detail on attribute selectors. Again, Link Selectors are an advanced feature.
Honestly, just use a Bubble link element. The behavior youāre experiencing is expected and documented.
If youāre at an impasse, feel free to DM me. I can set up a working example in your own app; but beyond that, youād be looking at some paid consulting help.
EDIT
And just to clarify, Sudsy Page is not reloading the page. Youāre simply experiencing the default Bubble behavior.
EDIT 2
And one final noteā¦ Hereās the post where I announced the Link Selector feature along with a demo and the rationale behind my decision to implement the feature. As you can see in the demo, it works just fine. All the links in the merged text make use of the Link Selector feature.
Just in case anyone needs the solution to this. The way to allow sudsy page to identify any link pointing to the same page is including a attribute that is common to all these links in the ālink selectorā field in the āsudsy pageā element on the page:
For example in my case I identify those links using the first āpath parameterā of the URL (i.e. the same bubble page).
Now, no matter it is a BBCode, a bubble ālinkā element or other, the page is not refreshed.
Thank you @sudsy for your guidance!
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