It looks like we just finished building a 205$ per month feature.
It’s a very simple feature, basically a search for products through bar code displaying product informations on a page.
3 suppliers have been listed at the moment representing 19 106 products. We were thinking of adding more suppliers …
What Im trying to point out is that even if you rethink the way you handle adding new lines to the database, there are some lines that cannot be deleted. In my case I cannot remove any of those 19 106 lines because it would mean that sometimes users would not be able to find the product they are looking for.
I’m not the type of person to constantly complain about prices going up, but this is really terrible. Having a total number of things (overall) seems to cripple all future plans with my apps. I finally have a business going and this will ruin it. I think you could mitigate that by making it additions per month instead of total.
Questions/ Concerns
What is going to happen to my legacy plans?
You said some things would be cheaper, not really feeling an offset.
Please! If you’re going this new direction, YOU NEED A $50-$60 prosumer plan!
Like some others have stated, deleting things in bubble is not quick and easy.
I strongly urge you to to reconsider this decision.
It’s really complex to navigate without any kind of guarantee that the business model we are building with this fantastic tool will be maintainable in the future, without permanent fear of seeing a new change like this suddenly coming and changing in depth what has been announced to customers …
Even if I start processes to delete all the rows in my DB today I don’t think I will get below the plan limit before I need to change at the end of the year
I agree with the overall sentiment about the DB things limit. At the same time, it’s not easy to introduce new pricing. The last update was summer '18 and there was the same negative sentiment. However, this time the structure significantly changes vs the base pricing.
How does the db thing limit handle different versions? Will each version have a 25K limit on professional or is it shared?
Hope not, as Webflow is much much much better in that play than Bubble.
I think they have a hard time monetizing enough for the millions of investment dollars they got. So now spreadsheet boys and girls think they found a way to cash in on the investment.
Honestly, I think Bubble was close in reaching the sweet spot toolbox you need for MVP building. A bit more sexy UI, better performance and better storage prices and nothing else would have been able to beat it. Then have some patience and vision such that people and companies start using it and are willing to pay for it.
When people ask what the ‘cons’ are of these no-code solutions - this is the biggest of all. Once you have committed to the platform, and invested time and money into the solution, you are still at the mercy of the provider. If they want to raise prices and limits, there’s nothing we can really do about it. We are the reason that companies like Bubble are successful, and they just pulled the rug out from many of us that have trusted the platform. I really hope you rethink these database limits.
I do hope this gets reversed. I’m a huge fan of nocode and Bubble, but this highlights my biggest fear about “nocode” and the biggest flaw in the nocode model.
When we choose to go nocode and choose a platform, we are putting ourselves 100% in the hands of the platform. We select the platform based on what it does and the pricing model, and we say OK we’ll trust that’s the deal going forward, and based on that deal we put our business 100% in the platform’s hands.
However the risk is that the nocode platform can change the “deal” at any time (in terms of pricing or services offered), and changes can demolish your business. So we as users look for platforms that we can trust – ones that understand the absolute importance of respecting the “deal” between the platform and users.
This change in Bubble pricing is not an incremental change, but a fundamental one. It flips the pricing model on its head, absolutely changes the “deal” between Bubble and users, and undermines the user trust and goodwill that Bubble has carefully built over the years. I’m really at a loss to understand it.
Using things as a measure is wrong. Why not size? If I export my whole database it would have at least 80K things but they won’t even reach 100mb in size. Even if it’s per months it’s still a weird measure, but if it’s total then that’s a disaster.
Is this a joke? You mention similar or lower price point. Nothing is lower. Everything is more expensive and these pricing terms are ridiculous. How do you measure something in the database that is just text which is literally 0kb compared to like images. How is an app that has message conversations supposed to function now? It can’t. How is an app that stores outputs from user forms supposed to function? It can’t. These new terms are ridiculous and will force people to search out external databases which will impact users due to slower loading via calling that API and it will lead to all your loyal customers and supporters with deep resentment due to the hours it will spend to solve this issue which is of none of our making.
Lower storage costs Lower production plan costs Overages instead of outages
And then… Insanely low database limits
A money grab aimed with an arbitrary number set to make the biggest power users pay up.
Say goodbye to tracking events on Bubble. Say hello to things with hundreds of fields on them. Giving a “year” to your legacy plans? Yes, thank you for forcing every user that built extremely complicated applications requiring large databases to completely restructure/refactor their application or pay thousands of dollars more per month – in a year’s time.
You have had to have known that the people that love Bubble the most would absolutely loathe this decision.
The limits on database records is so limiting, it’s not considering what bubble is used for. We use Bubble to build apps not store records like a CRM or airtable. I’d be very interested to know what competing products were considered - if you’re comparing bubble to webflow then they’re entirely different applications.
I struggle to see how an indie SaaS can compete at this pricing!
If I want to track activity for instance then that could lead to 1,000’s of records that take up very little storage but they’re essential for our app to function. I really cannot see how bubble is a viable option for an application - scalability is essentially removed for the most basic of functions. It would have made more sense to reduce storage than database records or limit the amount of users an app can have.
I’m assuming that if I store data outside of bubble (I’m sure there will be lots of tutorials coming) then the next move will no doubt be to limit the API requests.
This forces me onto the highest plan and beyond! I’m actually more confused than ever as to how much it will actually cost to run my apps.
This is extremely disappointing and in all honesty it leaves me with egg on my face! Everybody continually hounds me about how it’s a mistake building on somebody else’s platform with no way of exporting the code knowing that they can change pricing and policy at will.
All users put their trust into bubble - that trust is misplaced!
exactly my throughts… I have at least 15 dummy apps with 1 table, and 5 five real running apps
this how things become when investors drive a startup… we were happy to you getting thousand $ foundings, now we gonna pay the heavy tribute to this.
@emmanuel this is crazy. What am I going to say to my clients? pay ten thousand time the actual monthly price plus my paid time to try to redisign the app with external db ??? I m totally mad right now
Folks, welcome to the wonderful world of raising $100MM in venture capital, then sticking up the rear end of your most loyal customers/evangelists while screaming, “this won’t hurt one bit; it’s actually good for you!”.
Just a quick question, are users of the app too are limited according to this new plan ?
I mean new signups will be limited as they count towards db, those users when login then page view meter will climb up when they create a new record again db meter will climb
If this is really happening I have to cancel all my current plans with bubble and delete all my future plans too, go to a remote village and settle down there.
Indeed – I remember that. The scary thing is there was a lot of uproar for months… but there wasn’t any major concessions from the '18 price change. I hope this time around is different. You are very correct regarding the significantly changed structure. I was here when Bubble had limits based on workflows – Wasn’t a fan at all.
Although todays pricing model with capacity is more ambiguous, it definitely seems preferable to hard limits. Something about seeing that hard limit that scares me and it appears, many folks.
Why didn’t Bubble just do a “overage” on capacity? That would’ve made me happy since my customers wouldn’t hit a hard capacity issue… and Bubble would’ve had the means for more revenue when I’m using more spiked capacity.
Lower storage costs
Insanely low database limits
