IDK about the first part but I think the reason the second group is showing is because in the property editor you should uncheck show on page load for the second group, then you could go in the properties of the first group and set a condition like ( when Current User is logged In - This Element Is Visible, Checked) Just be aware you wont see that element anymore in the editor until you show it in the elements tree. In the property editor in those groups under conditional you can set a condition to show the element however you need