Ok, so I just found Bubble.is and I have never seen anything like this, I’m kinda shocked. I’ve long thought that in some years from now we will be building any software with drag and drop, but it seems the future is now?
The first impression I got from all this is so amazing I actually struggle to believe this isn’t april fools or a scam. Like where’s the catch? This is too good to be true. There’s got to be SOMETHING hidden here lol
What happens if you build something that catch the interest of hundreds of thousands, does this have a limit?
Do we who “draw” the app/website “own” what we created, or is there some hidden ownership bubble.is have over everything that is built with it?
Is bubble.is just the programming and UI side of it, and you connect databases and lots of other services to it. Or is bubble EVERYTHING? I’ve looked into AWS and it looks nice, but if I create my website/android app/ios app in bubble I guess I won’t need to learn AWS?
As I’ve understood you can create both websites and apps to make available in app stores?
Even the pricing is too good to be true. If my network grow to enterprise level, the ads are going to pay for the app by a long shot
I have some wireframes for my project, but I guess there is no need showing them if you can build f*cking twitter with this. If there are no limits here I guess the tool I will change the world with is… bubble.is
It’s not every day you see a revolution, so that’s why I struggle to believe all this
Welcome - Bubble truly is an amazing platform to very quickly build some amazing apps with no code.
Limits are based around visual (not going to build a game with it) and there are certain limitations around Data visualization and calculations. But there are ways to work around this using APIs and the recent custom coded elements (although these need some coding knowledge).
If you build something that scales that large, I would be less worried about using Bubble, as hopefully you are monetizing this audience and could always custom build something when you reach that scale if necessary. That being said the Bubble team is awesome and can be informed if there will be large amounts of traffic to your app (also options to go on a Dedicated Server).
Around ownership, actually not 100% sure about this, might need to read the Terms of the site a little closer…
Bubble has a database built in (which actually uses AWS), but everything is accessed through your Bubble app editor.
Yes, it is optimized for web applications, and there are ways to make app for the app stores (slightly more cumbersome)
Overall it is an amazing system. There might be the odd drawback (some annoyances getting responsive designs to look just right, sometimes slow loading lots of data), but overall the value is great. It is especially great for any MVP focused, early stage company
I’ve seen it typed a few times in other threads, but I’m 98% you own your app, you own your data. In the event Bubble goes belly up, they’ve pledged to open-source the platform so you can keep your ship afloat.
Yeah you mean if this gets 100k users in just a few months and you see there is no reason the number should stop growing, I quickly hire programmers to make a new site from scratch and just point the domain to those new files they create? A whole new system from scratch, but the users won’t notice anything because it’s the same domain.
But in that case, what about all the text (it’s mostly text posts), recording and links posted by the users up to then. The built in database you talk about, is that located with AWS and then just connected to bubble and integrated? The Q is, will I easily be able to extract all the data made by users up to the point where I see the best way is to switch to a build from scratch? It would be a catastrophe if the content made by users, which is the main thing here, was like “locked” to bubble.is’s account at AWS and could not be transfered to another back end server at AWS. Or do we get our own space at AWS that is just connected to our bubble account?
I’m probably not going to make the next instagram with tens of millions of users, as my idea is more educational (and people find pictures more fun than education), but my website/app do have the potential to connect with every single human being by gathering their perspectives on many universal topics, it’s about “being human”, learning and understanding each other and ourselves through others, so the potential is kinda 7 billion. OFC that’s not how it works, I’m just saying this idea isn’t restricted to one field or topic. But I’m pretty confident this is interesting to AT LEAST 100k people, to be honest millions, but let’s calm down and get back to reality.
But about the app creation, it’s possible to connect the app and website? So they both have access to the same database? Access to the same content but through different platforms? Or is that one of the restrictions of this? Maybe I don’t need an own app to begin with if I make the website very mobile friendly? I understand that bubble is still “young” and that it could be still a few years until we have that “100% ability to do absolutely anything, no limits, death-of-all-programming-languages”-tool, but I’m very impressed by what I’'ve seen this far.
I just know this idea has to be realised, so I actually started educating myself at teamtreehouse.com and I’m ready to learn all of this from scratch, but now I’ve found bubble… Doing this through bubble.is is faster if it have no restrictions for my idea and potential growth. So maybe do this with bubble first and then learn myself programming as it’s a good skill to have anyway? I just need to know 100% I own what I create and the data I gather is extractable before starting this.
Data migration via the Bubble API. It’s not common, but it’s also not uncommon.
If you have no development background, Bubble will let you test out your idea now, as opposed to waiting to learn about all of the various technology just to begin.
Bubble API can be accessed outside of the Bubble ecosystem, so you can share its database.
Continue to learn programming and it will help you tremendously. I was a professional developer and also did iOS development in my spare time, but I use Bubble since I can churn things out faster since school is eating up my time.
Thanks for great answers. I’m just gonna finish my wireframe and talk with a few more web developer experts to start this project with as many perspectives as possible. But most likely I’m putting all my time into bubble from now on
Yeah I’m only 25 years old now and already got tons of ideas for apps and websites and even a game, and the ideas are probably going to continue pouring in the next 25, so learning programming and design is probably the greatest investment I can do for my life.
Like the founders here, I agree that this is the future for software development, so would be cool to be part of this concept from a relatively early stage. My concerns was now, although I believe in this concept, how can bubble.is as a young service handle all the infrastructure of a YUGE web application like twitter etc. You look at the stacks of sites like Instagram, and you see all these massive services and systems that you need in addition to the code that make the website. It’s just hard to believe that bubble replaced that whole stack I was reading on Instagram’s dev blog. But again, I have no experience with all this so my view is not correct, and as bubble is like a new concept in development, maybe it’s easier to get it all under 1 service.
I’m still in awe by the first impression bubble has given me. And parts of my brain still don’t believe this is true
The basic rule: you own your data. This includes the design of your application and the data that your users upload (pursuant to your own agreement with them, of course).
In other words, you own the design, the workflows and the data that is submitted by you and your users (as defined in your own privacy policy). That defines entirely your application. What Bubble owns is the underlying code that execute your application, which is not app-specific. Like Microsoft owns Word but not a text written on it.
