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Changes to our free plan

I’m learning from a udemy course and im unable to deploy a live version following the course, I think bubble has amazing value and that it is important for bubble to get paid for further development.

But at least give us a few hours per week or months or even on a per app basis for us to test out the available functions since they could be important for designing the app , a beta live version before actual deployment could also allow people to collect data and push for bug fixes.

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Thanks for the update and the transparency! Long live Bubble, that’s what we all want! So I guess changes like that are necessary :slight_smile: (even if it means that I won’t be able to use Bubble for some of my projects.

Best,

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All good with the changes - how do I find out exactly what is impacted… for example in my app on the hobby (legacy) plan - I can no longer confirm a user on signup via email confirmation… has this been changed?

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This was definitely not something impacted by this update. You might want to create a new thread to debug the issue.

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To be honest, I was surprised that this didn’t happen sooner. :slight_smile:

Hi @emmanuel

I understand the need to get as much as possible paid apps.
But, the step to 29 dollar/month is a to big step for a lot of new apps to make.

For example I’m teaching my 10 year old son to build his own app.
In that way they learn very early to think instead of consuming (watch different screens) :wink:

Now he want to put his app live, but we need to pay far to much for something likt this.
If there was a option to pay 50 dollar/year I would do that directly.

Please think about introducing a lite version that contains Live but is a lot cheaper than the Personal plan.

Thanks a lot!

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Right there with you, @mjkosten. I’ve actually got an idea out there regarding the need for a more affordable “entry level” plan in case you want to “vote” on it.

I like the transparency, but I am a 17yo doing pro bono web development, and I am not ready to pay $20 a month for what IS basic functionality. How are we to actually use our apps without access the app itself. I know that scaling is expensive, but find a balance between usability and expense. Bubble has great potential, and I hope to find that in the future, changes will be made to be more affordable.

Might I recommend backendless or appgyver for a free(er) and free solution

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I follow my fellow latin americans and braziliians who said the most basic plan is too expensive for us. Agency plan? That would be a dream, but that costs half of the base income. Not only that, but your payment system is account-side, which makes no sense with an app plan system. You pick a plan by app but you need to pay for all apps together in one bill? Also, you can only have one credit card slot, making dividing payments in multiple payment methods impossible. Managing apps paid by multiple clients now demands multiple accounts. This could be more flexible, much like the competitor platforms, and include app-side payment, plan as well as payment method.

Take the already mentioned low base income on our country, include the high dollar-real exchange and put in all those barriers I mentioned together and it becomes REALLY hard acquire a plan for all my apps (specially the personally funded).

I work developing tools to help to administrate and manage courses for indigenous students. These students learn video editing, territorial and environmental management, managing, finance. These courses pay me what they can, which is not much (since the indigenous movement in Brazil is sabotaged by the government), all of our resources are scarce, any increase in bureaucracy or payment is a big blow in development.

About the transparency: I love you guys try to be as transparent as you can, and I appreciate that, every company should be that way. However three months in and I found some problems with what your team don’t explicitly say, for example: you described that 200 things is the limit for every app, but didn’t mention that you can’t delete things after you reach 100%, so virtually you lock your app until you pay for it, rendering it virtually useless and making testing and developing impossible too. (If someone knows any way around this, please dm me)

I can be wrong, I wish to, because I really like Bubble, it helped me join a career in programming at my 28 yrs old and is still helping me achieve long term goals and project with it’s methodology and format, which are all far better and more transparent than the competition. However with these new plans, I’ll have to cut more from food money to set any app up, and I can’t do that (and nobody should).

I support this. It’s important for Bubble to get a return on the incredible value they bring.

Now…just introduce MFA at the mid-pay-tier and I think the force remains balanced… :smiley:

I joined in January but I’m guessing I’m limited to the 200? I’m having trouble saving something that is fairly crucial in development and it’s not saving. I assume I’ve hit the limit but if it’s not the limit I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. How can I tell when I’m at 200? please help I can’t trouble shoot the problem.

Hey there @serviluvapp,

There is usually a warning that pops up that says you’ve reached the limit in development mode.

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Thank you. Then I’m doing something wrong for sure.

Hi there, would someone help me with the permissions for the departments as im confused and the permission which i thought should work aren’t working

a $9 month plan makes sense to me and your @B4B suggestion is great

I was really enjoying Bubble, but this value is a little expensive for Brazilian customers to pay, for this reason I switched to AppGyver found it more complex at first, but it is also more powerful and its pricing policy is very clear, up to $10,000 it’s totally free

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Really disappointed with Bubble!

I was about to launch my website where i found out that this plan has come into effect and bubble didn’t even send emails to anyone telling this.

As a person who spent almost 1000+ Hours Planning and doing all workflows of my app and putting this much effort to it and just with a blink of a second it goes to waist.

And $29 is alot for a website where i live. I thought bubble was “Free No-Code App Developer” but turns out the only feature that kept us going was the Develop to Live feature and now that’s gone.

Really really disappointed into this change……
Outrageous…

This sounds highly unlikely that the change would’ve affected you.

Had you started after the change, you wouldn’t be expecting free shit because they wouldn’t have advertised as free. i mean, cmon! had you started before, your app is still able to be deployed. I’m a prime example as are others on here. i have several ‘legacy’ hobby apps I regularly deploy updates for.

also, they gotta keep the lights on. you don’t get 100 mil invested as a non funds generating business. you can’t run a business on that model forever and hope to be fruitful.

unless you’re appgyver :laughing: somehow they figured that part out

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I’ve started using bubble since April 2020 and i already had apps but since i was on Hobby I couldn’t change my Domain, thats why i made a new app after making all the edits and testing it. And yesterday i came to launch it and turns out this is in effect which effected me and my members…