Is it my Machine or Editor?

So, I’ve been using this same computer I bought from my friend 10 years ago who bought it second hand 12 years ago.

It seems ChatGPT is implying it is time for a new computer

1. Performance: Massive Leap Forward

Your iMac has:

  • A 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 (dual or quad-core, 2011-era)
  • A mechanical hard drive or Fusion Drive (likely)
  • Outdated DDR3 RAM and a slow GPU

Compare that to even the base M1 Mac mini or MacBook Air (2020):

  • Apple Silicon (M1 chip) with 8-core CPU, 7–8-core GPU
  • Ultra-fast SSD storage (not just faster — like 10x+ faster in read/write speed)
  • Unified memory architecture = better efficiency
  • Silent, cool, and way more power-efficient

Real-world result: Apps launch instantly, multitasking is buttery smooth, and performance is night-and-day faster — even for basic tasks like Safari, Mail, and Office, and especially for creative work (Photoshop, Final Cut, Xcode, etc.).

Is this true? Does having a newer computer improve things so that I would see better performance on apps when using as a user or within the Bubble editor itself?

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Short answer, yes. That’s insanely old. Even upgrading to a 2020 ARM-based M1 model will be a drastic change. (I didn’t read the chatGPT response before writing that btw)

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+1 and if you go for newer pro model, your editor experience will be significantly improved.

After some point, browsing as regular user is pretty much the same but 2011 mac is old

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Damn…deep respect for working with an Intel based Mac all these years…even my mini PC can outdo your machine.

You really should upgrade. It’s night and day man.

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Myself I refuse to use any Apple product.

They’re overpriced and do nothing more than anything else that costs way less.

At home, I use a Chromebook to work on my app. It’s fast and does exactly what I need…and it only costs like $200.00.

Techy people somehow think Apple products help them work better - I haven’t seen how yet. Maybe someone can explain.

But yes, to answer your question, it’s time to upgrade to something more modern and get rid of the flip phone idea.

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Mousepad is very nice

Have a similar computer been using with issue_checker off for the past 12 months

You can get a perfectly functional mouse or even a third-party trackpad for significantly less :slightly_smiling_face:

Added: Ever heard the saying…if Apple sold cars, they’d charge extra for the steering wheel, tires, …

I’ve never loved a computer as much as my M1 MacBook Pro bought a few years ago. It’s built like a tank (not light, which may put some off, but I prefer it), incredible screen, blazing fast, plugs instantly into my big monitor when working at the office. And yes the best trackpad ever (it’s actually glass and the “clicks” are haptic/an illusion but you’d never know). Could never go back to a normal one now.

Is it “required” no, but is it bloody lovely and makes working so much more enjoyable - totally.

And just don’t underestimate the importance of memory, no lags it slowdowns, get as much as you can afford and then the whole thing will last you years and be worth all the money. :sun:

Edit: actually that’s a lie, my “Amiga” computer is still number one in my heart. :heart:

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My brother!! I have upgraded my workstation like 2 times since joining Bubble, haha. I wouldn’t mess with anything less than 3-4ghz as far as processing goes.

Storage has very minimal to do with your processing speeds and RAM. Although, if you had an SSD in comparison, it would be unequivocally better by any means.

Your ram is DDR3, I’m already on my way DDR6 coming up in about 2 years :stuck_out_tongue:

DDR3 is like Windows Vista era (in my comparison).

To answer your questions:

  • Yes, it will durastically improve your browsing and app speeds.
  • Your editor will be more responsive.
  • Can have many more applications / web tabs open at the same time
  • Definitely time for an upgrade.

As far as what @senecadatabase is saying about Apple products, I use their phone… And ultimately, may end up getting a Mac Mini. Mac’s are 10x better to develop in with code (as far as speeds, and development processing goes – for instance, loading up a dev server and performing hot reloads, and simultaneously running many other processes). I also know they are really good with productivity related tools like Adobe software (practically built into it) and many others. I specifically like the RayCast tool, which I wish Windows had.

All-in-all, get yourself a new setup, whether Windows or Mac, and regardless of the OS, you’ll see HUGE improvements overall.

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Refurbished M1 2020 Macbooks are the best dlaptop deals around nowadays. And the latest M4 mac mini.

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Been eyeing out the M4 for a minute.

Ya’ll MacBook people are delusional :sweat_smile:

You can’t do anything more than I can with a cheaper system.

I don’t think you understood my point.

My windows will out-perform a Mac any-day in every day tasks, however, with coding, it is a much different environment:

There are several reasons why many developers find coding on macOS smoother than on Windows:

  1. Unix-based foundation: macOS is built on a Unix foundation, which makes it naturally compatible with many development tools and frameworks that were originally designed for Unix-like systems.
  2. Native terminal: The macOS Terminal provides a powerful Unix shell environment out of the box, whereas Windows Command Prompt has historically been more limited (though Windows Terminal and PowerShell have improved this).
  3. Package management: macOS has Homebrew, which makes installing development tools and dependencies straightforward with simple commands.
  4. Development ecosystem: Many development tools were originally designed with macOS in mind, and some frameworks (like iOS development) require macOS.
  5. Consistent environment: The Unix-like environment of macOS more closely matches production servers, which often run Linux, reducing deployment inconsistencies.
  6. Hardware-software integration: Apple’s tight integration between hardware and software can result in a more predictable development environment.

The upside that windows has is WSL, however I barely use it. It still doesn’t outmatch how much faster the native system is on Mac.

I could also list the points against it…

should I?

100%, I’m still doing research too. I have been using Windows for development since day 1. All criticism is welcomed.

Just before you go too far:

  1. Do you actively utilize Windows to code? If so, what do you use for an IDE?
  2. What package manager do you use?
  3. What compiler do you use?
  4. Do you have to wait long periods of time between builds/hot-reloads?
  5. With AI workstations, are you able to simultaneously run MCP services/plugins in the background WHILE using an AI IDE? If so, how is that process? Does it lag for you in between messages? Does it start to bog your machine down after a certain period of time (with contextual messages)?

Apple machines handle ALL of this pretty damn well. For me on Windows, even with top tier specs, can give me lag/memory issues.

Now, if you can’t get past 1, then we can’t really dig too deep in terms of comparison, cause that’s my sole purpose, and I’m not sure what Boston’s purpose is specifically, but I do know he has been delving into code as well lately, so he may be interested in something that will handle a real development process as well. Since he’s already using a Mac, him being able to just upgrade is the most ideal as there is less time involved in him learning how to work an entirely new OS. Especially since he likely has multiple clients with a workflow/process he’s already setup. Switching OS’s could definitely add an obstacle to that.

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Anyway, seriously, you guys can use what you want.

Getting ready to go on a week-long vacation, so I hope everyone stays safe and gets their app working the way they want.

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