Native Mobile 2024 BubbleCon - Question Thread

As a business owner, I need information to help me decide how to handle native mobile.

I was about to deploy a native wrapper, then I sat through BubbleCon 2023’s native mobile annoucement (in person) and decided to wait until “mid-2024” when they planned to roll it out.

I just watched BubbleCon 2024’s native mobile announcement. No date was given when I can get access…other than “rolling wait list”.

Can someone with beta access to native mobile give me some feedback? Should I go another route?

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This is why the announcement was such a letdown for me. Last year’s announcement led to real life business decisions like this and there has been minimal talk from Bubble about this.

Also waiting for the Beta but nothing has come through

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Also having this same issue.
I’m trying to operate a real company here, I need to know when this is happening otherwise real life decisions can’t be made.

Its a lovely game for people messing around with ideas, but some of us have live users waiting for mobile and it could be make or break for the whole company!

Exactly. If I can simply get access to the editor, then I can see current capabilities and limitations.

If it’s too limited today, then I’ll go forward with the wrapper in the meantime (all still in bubble).

I’m just looking for a bit of transparency so I can continue to run my business on bubble. We were promised a lot of questions to be answered today…sadly I’m in the same spot from 12 months ago.

They don’t want their Native features to become another “Table” situation. So patience is key.

Don’t revolve your business based on your limitations, go out and find solutions!

You can easily wrap your application in electron and it’ll be 100% native. You just need to understand a little on how to compile and distribute.

I won’t be surprised if they end up using Electron as the framework.

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I have no problem with this. But go rewatch the 2023 announcement and compare it to today’s.

I was under the impression that a lot was already built, and they specifically told us “mid-2024” rollout.

I was OK with waiting till then. And OK with waiting even more…but just show me what capabilities are available now, so I can make an informed decision.

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Agreed, except for your patience is key comment :joy: as business doesn’t quite work like that.

Its frustrating that given this app store publishing and vital features (such as push notifications) are right at our fingertips, we still have to go and wrap the app and use third party services.

But it is what it is, will wrap it for now then when funded run a mile and get built in proper code

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This is just wrong - the framework is fully React Native

I am planning to be able to build a real world app effectively in mid-2025 - that’s my estimation as a developer thats user the beta

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I never said it was. But good to know. Flutter would of been better IMO (though likely hard to implement with current framework).

In the mean time, use Natively wrapper and a template, eg. Mobius - Mobile, Native & PWA Template | Bubble

Migration should be fairly doable when the Bubble Native feature list and plugins are up to an acceptable level. Probably late 2025.

Remember, most components stay the same. And actions etc can be copied from the old editor to the new mobile editor.

As a developer and marketplace creator, I don’t count on being able to do anything but simpel apps initially. But will convert my templates as soon as I can :slight_smile:

Not with this community—we are very understanding of underbaked releases! :joy:

I personally am very eager to get my hands on this, but if it’s not ready, I don’t want it yet. Let 'em WORK!

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Yeah same. I’m in the Alpha group and don’t plan on fully using this new feature until Early/Mid 2025. Until then I use Natively for all native app needs.

Very excited for native functionality like swipe capabilities :raised_hands:

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I’m surprised people plan businesses around unreleased features. That’s risky, very risky. So if it doesn’t pan out then it just means you lost a gamble and move on. If you didn’t have plans B and C now… then next time always have B and C.

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I’m not too sure what business some people are running, but in the real world when you tell your customers you will have a new feature that will be released mid 2024. Expect to have hard questions from your customers. No details, floating timeline - Thats not how it works.

Regardless, one should not be making business decisions around promises. Count your chickens before they hatch and all that.

Bigger companies have delayed bigger releases.

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Why not make long term plans around a partner like bubble? It’s worked in my favor so far.

Bubble is basically a miracle for me. The fact that I care about native mobile is a compliment to bubble. Native will be another miracle for me…and I’m excited for it.

Maybe I should be more patient (like some suggest above). I’m just getting mixed signals on the true timeline.

The purpose of this post was to collect information from people with native access.

It would be more helpful if I had access to the editor and can see for myself, or maybe see a YouTube video, but this is helpful in the meantime.

Sorry if the initial post came off as too negative towards bubble. I love bubble and the team behind it…and I need native mobile.

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Is there any more information or insight into the “Offline” Functionality.??
Will this be baked in, or will there have to be building and syncing of an second offline database?
or will it be as simple as writing some workflow for rules on syncing when back online with the DB simply replicating by magic from server to local???

Yeah, experience tells us this…

Does anybody remember the Flexbox responsive system? How many delays did that encounter…if my memory serves me, it was a solid 18 months behind ‘original’ schedule once it finally did get released. And keep in mind, it had so many shortcomings, but over some 6 months Bubble was able to implement nearly most of the features/functions users expressed were necessary.

This is disappointing, as there are a lot of people eager to get access and have been waiting on the waitlist…but if we all remember the good book by Dr. Seuss (Oh the Places you Will Go), we never want to get stuck in the Waiting Place.

I would beg to differ. When we do not know what might be in the future, it is best to take action now on what we know to be true today. Tomorrow is never guaranteed.

I do not think we actually need access to know what the current capabilities are, since those are likely going to be expanded upon. I’d imagine, that we can believe in the words from Bubble when they express what is going to be available as features and not expect anything less. Even though they are not great at keeping to a timeline, as most big projects of anytype are not (I just finished building a house, thought it would take 5 months, it took 9.5 months), I do not think they have ever really reneged on their word too many times (there is one glaring example of that but it is what it is).

This is the approach I would be taking, minus the mile long run…god why does anybody do such a thing? I’d be looking at it as, let’s wrap it now, and once mobile native is released, make the necessary tweaks if at the time are not thrilled with the wrapped version.

For me personally, I’m hugely disappointed that mobile native is not here yet, nor is the beta more publicly available as I’ve had plans to build an app to release as native. This app is going to be a free app used to garner more exposure for an ecosystem of apps, so not really a make/break a business type of application, but surely something I am very eager to release as it will greatly expand the capabilities of the business in terms of likely reducing advert spend.

No matter what, Bubble has disappointed us all in the past, when around long enough, those disappointments need more than one hand to count, but Bubble has sold us the dream, we bought it, and for some of us, have come to realize that dream and are now just dreaming bigger. Hats off to Bubble for what they have accomplished so far, and hoping they keep the ship steered to accomplish even more in the future…but yeah, please, open up the beta and stop being so coy, it’s not a middle school prom.

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Thanks all :slight_smile:

Hi all.

What about creating PWA’s with Bubble without the need of a third party tool? Will it be possible with the new mobile features of Bubble?

I think it’s a good thing that Bubble will be able to create native Apps, but, as for myself, after having developed several Apps (with other tools), I’m kind of tired of the official App stores. They give me a lot of bureaucratic work all the time, and sincerely, except for notifications, a native App does not add any value compared to a PWA, at least for the kind of apps I develop.

Any thoughts about this from Bubble?

Best regards.