Until AI becomes fully 100% agentic (like controlling your browser) there’s still the “managing” aspect of having to oversee dashboards, backend infra, and then piecing everything together.
Bubble’s all-in-one solution can still make sense, but they have to at bare minimum have a GPT-5 level:
Right now they have a GPT 2 level “Notion template builder” and a GPT 3.5 level front-end design composer.
Urgh…until AI can diagnose and resolves issues in every stack of the app it “built” it’s nothing but a tool for human developers.
No one enjoys troubleshooting other people’s work.
Interfacing will be different. Everybody thinking they will outsmart AI and keep doing things as they do will be soon obsolete.
It will take a bit more time to get AI versed in each and every technology but the more mature technologies will be used to build and put things together.
If you let AI code backends and frontend like me with 4o, and if you know it will be two times better in about 6 months, I think we will get to a point where you simply draw on paper, add some example apps/webs, describe what you want and AI will make it.
True, it might not do the 20% that rock star programmers in Silicon Valley do, but most users only need 20% of the remaining 80% AI can do just fine.
I agree that bubble has dropped the ball several times in the last year or so. However, to suggest that it should sell to further monopolize the internet to the few large mega corporations is a joke. Selling to a large corporation helps no one but the shareholders.
Seeing this sucks a lot:
Kind of feels pointless doing this manually in Bubble (would take at least 15-30 minutes to do this properly), I really don’t think coding in Bubble is faster anymore. Maybe holistically in terms of integrating database there’s some time and effort savings but between the clunky expression composer (lack of moving stuff around, copying and pasting, “reusable expressions”) and the lack of actually useful AI… it’s not looking too good.
They’ll get around to adding AI for truly custom pages.
Bubble is still way faster than trad code or AI + tradcode.
If and when that changes in the next few years, then so be it, I can offer even better apps to clients for less.
Wordpress made it easy to make a CMS - anyone could do it, yet there are still thousands of developers and agencies offering those services because there will always be someone willing to pay you to do something no matter how simple it
is.
There are four lights.
@randomanon lets connect.
I think as all innovations the incubators do not believe, nor see the future as possible it valuable. I was hoping to get a discussion started here and there but people earning money with Bubble do not like it.
I have invested a lot of time in AI so I know what it can do an its limitations. Knowing what it can do already and knowing it will be capable of doing twice as much in about 6 months got me thinking. AI will change our lives even more than internet has done. And it will change our lives faster than we can imagine.
Would like to connect with people that think the same on this. We can learn from each other.
I do think that there will be place for Bubble in this new world. But as it develops I do not think it will be the leading force. Which is ok, whatever helps to get people to realizing their dreams is fine by me 
Thats a very good point actually. Wordpress is super easy yet there are so many agencies who specialise in Wordpress sites.
Also AI will have its place but its highly overrated at the moment. Everybody is trying to use the word AI or incorporate AI into everything, in some cases with very little positive gains, or more like negative gains by wasting dev time.
Also i dont think there is any real competition for bubble at the moment. For me personally Flutterflow is there closest equivalent in terms of features. If you pair flutterflow with supabase, you have a very strong combo. But thats low code. I think Bubble is still the king/queen of nocode.
Looks great, until you have to troubleshoot the code. I use AI everyday. From simple queries to writing code. I love it.
But let’s be real. Automated anything will have its place but anything unique will still require human intervention.
You lot tend to forget that troubleshooting is part and parcel of code. Looking at the general ability of people posting asking for help in the forum, AI is going to cause more pain than it solves.
AI builds app, something doesn’t work the way the user wants, user asks forum for help but has no idea what the problem is because AI built it.
Don’t need my responsive settings to be “unique.”
More people are starting to notice:
I think it’s important to remember that even with no code/low code, MOST people still aren’t going to take the time or have the patience to learn how to use them.
We’ve got tons of website builders, but there’s still a big market to build websites.
Bubble is still a good source for anyone wanting to get an app to market quickly. And even then, there are tons of people who don’t want to take the time to learn it and will pay to have someone build it for them.
It’s good to have conversations about things…but it’s also important to realize those conversations are within a group that uses and knows how to use certain tools and don’t include the average user.
I think you analysis is interesting. I do agree that even though building websites is easier, lots of people still do not want to learn how to use something like Wordpress, set your dns etc. So they go to a person like yourself.
I do wonder why you think that you will keep using NoCode tools when AI is capable of writing the website/app for you when you feed it with the correct information. Why would you not save time and have a better performing product at a lower pricepoint?
Myself, I don’t build websites, it was just a quick example.
I know there are AI sites out there now that say they can build you a website. But, sites like Webflow are still doing pretty well.
I’ve been learning Bubble. I can also build apps from the ground up just using code, which I’ve done for the last 10 years.
If someone wants to use a different backend like Xano or whatever, that’s obviously their option. They may have a site that uses a lot of work units. I think Bubble has help for that in the way of their pricing concepts.
I do think most people who use Bubble like the way it’s an all-in-one platform and doesn’t require learning multiple tech stacks.
An app like Uber uses a big tech stack and I just don’t think they could get up today and use AI to completely rebuild their site.
I did see a video posted somewhere where they were using Bubble to build an Uber clone. I didn’t watch it but thought it would be interesting.
Also, when just using code, there’s a lot of upkeep. That’s why big apps hire a full staff just to keep them running. Bubble hires a big staff and users can just take advantage of that to build an app. An app on Bubble can be a one-person show.
Overall though, I just don’t think the average person out there really wants to take the time or has the patience to learn a lot of different things.
Bubble is working on incorporating AI, although it still has a way to go. But maybe in the future it will just do workflows and everything for you.
Anyway, thank you for your comment.
I understand your point of view. Keeping custom code running does not have to be a pain though. It is often that developers keep adding dependencies that can break. Pros with AI can be that you can have vanilla code only what you need. It will be faster and easier to maintain. Even for one man/women shop.
I can understand your points of view also.
If using AI to create an app works for you, then it sounds like a great plan. For the majority of people though it would be a headache.
I use AI to write code myself. But, it’s important to realize people don’t know what they don’t know and some of the code that is given is wonky and has problems.
I still think Bubble is the best all-in-one solution for most people.
I did an experiment with a grocery list maker on my app. I have 16 images where a user can just click the image of the most popular items people buy, and the product would be added to the list. Or, they could also type an item in an input field, or use speech-to-text. They can check the item and show it as added to their cart, or delete each item…or the whole list.
I got the idea from the latest build day with Bubble where the founder did a todo list.
I did find out the work units spiked a lot and so I’m trying to determine if the feature is worth it.
Just part of the learning process with Bubble.
Overall, I’d highly recommend Bubble for most people to build an idea they have.
there are always requests for new features, platform updates etc, unless you want to write everything by yourself you will always need to introduce dependencies and you will always need to mantain them when they will have breaking changes.
This depends largely on how you setup the project. And still, using AI also means you need to change how you think about software development
It obviously seems like you love using AI.
I would be interested in seeing an app you’ve built using AI…and also seeing the complexity of it.
It would also be interesting to know what AI platform you use.
I’m not a prompt engineer by any means…and seem to have problems with a lot of my prompts…it would be interesting to learn what you know.
