FWIW in the alpha bugs were generally fixed very quickly and I saw more updates to this beta than I’ve seen on the rest of the product in months, so the iteration speed is definitely better which is awesome.
But yeah, all of us kind of said this was going to happen and it’s really difficult to use for any serious apps so I struggle to have sympathy for Bubble. The experienced dev user group is the one most likely to understand and empathise with the cause of reducing technical debt, but it is really screwing us over right now.
Too much design based on design theory rather than just making it nice to use.
Anyone here knows I’m the first to give Bubble benefit of the doubt when things aren’t perfect, but it’s hard to defend the indefensible.
Why does the OP have a private link to a gif in a Google drive no one has access to?
Edit: Does anyone think the new version is comprehensible, let alone better than the old version? Just looking at this screenshot, I have no idea what’s going on. Width, Min, Height as separate rows doesn’t make any sense. And no idea what the + - + on the right is supposed to indicate.
This is a beta, I assume with the purpose of gathering feedback from the wider community, so hopefully they will listen to the valuable comments posted here already and make those improvements.
There’s at least the mitigating factor that I also don’t know wtf I’m doing by instinct in the new Cursor visual editor which on the whole follows the same design patterns. So there’s no doubt some of my concerns are just muscle memory being lost.
But not all of them. There are still serious usability issues.
I sympathise with the technical debt, but I’m far less sympathetic about the culture. Their inability to hear any negative feedback will ruin the product (and already has for a lot of experienced Bubblers).
I noticed that the “Add/Edit workflow” button that starts a wf and navigates directly to the wf tab has been removed from the new PE.
Please you need to add that back, it’s a pain to always have to go to the wf tab to start a wf. any update that subjects the user to click-click-click more than the previous iteration is a bad update.
we need a ‘dark mode’ surely? This is way too much glare for long working hours. And a proper ‘close’ button surely? It’s a shame that the UI gets so ‘brutally’ ‘redesigned’. If I did this to my users I’d lose them overnight, Evolution not Revolution please… slowed me down instantly but I guess they’ll get it right over time…
Sweet! I can’t wait to try this in March, when all the dust settles, its ready and out of beta. Until then, it’s beta, I CBA to try beta stuff on a live production site that would be way too risky. I’ve only just enabled the expression editor .
I think the new design for the design tab could make sense, different layout same features but why not.
But the workflow tab doesn’t make sense for me right now. We used to have one main window and one on the side, and now it keeps popping up, huge waste of space, I like to see everything at a glance and now it’s either super spread like this example, or super cramped like mentioned by others, we can’t see which conditions are filled and which are not because it’s super small and all the same color.
Bubble has failed miserably in this new update. Too much mystery only to end up worse. I hope that for once they listen to the community and make the necessary corrections.
Yeah, but if Bubble’s property editor is starting to look like Cursor’s, that doesn’t feel like progress. It kind of undoes a decade of what Bubble built. And it also begs the obvious question: why deal with Bubble’s backend workarounds at all if you can design and build directly in Cursor? (not that I’ve used Cursor for any production apps yet)
Personally, in the half-dozen apps I’ve built outside of Bubble over the last few months, I haven’t touched a property editor once. Just basic prompts and the results are cleaner, smoother, and more pixel-perfect than my Bubble apps (or the Bubble apps built by others that I replaced). That’s partly on me for not being obsessive about design in Bubble, but it also says more about the state of the tools
It’s much much easier to work at the level of prompting direction and inspiration within low/high altitude than it is to squint at tiny inputs, click through panels, and tweak individual properties one by one. Once you experience that shift, it’s hard to see the property editor as a feature (although Cursor’s release implies there are still many out there that dont want to relinquish pixel by pixel control)
Well, this was a bummer. Went to work with the new editor and actually tried to get some work done with it. Unfortunately I kept running into issue after issue until I just had to swap back to the old one. Here are some of the major pain points I ran into in no particular order.
Things I had issues with
When selecting multiple groups, I can no longer make multiple changes at once.. such as changing padding, margin border, background etc. This is extremely annoying as now I need to do the same action 25 times.
When setting the Max/Min width and fit to height before it was simple and all was visible. Now i have to click a + icon and then select max width and then find it and fill it out…every time. To do something that took 0.25 seconds before.
You have to click in now into borders with this new Mixed thing in order to see all the different colors and roundness. Like why do I need all these extra steps…
The sidebar is stuck on the far right of the screen and now when working on items towards the bottom you are stuck working in the corner of your screen..
When clicking in the white space to click out of input boxes I kept collapsing the sections which was annoying
The new dynamic expression box makes it pretty hard to tell spacing. This is supposed to be First Name Last Initial (John S.) but it hurts my eyes to look at.
When clicking multiple items the focus groups did not automatically go away. So I had to manually close out each one
As others have said, the conditions now hiding what you are conditioning is extremely
annoying. Why are you hiding what background color I selected here. For what purpose.
I appreciate the new features announcement. I would appreciate if the OP would hangout on the thread and read replied, clarify, interact… hell, at this point, I would settle for “logged in to the forum”.
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