I am an intermediate Meteor.js developer and am interested in using Bubble instead in order to fast track development more easily. Please kindly answer the following questions before I try out the product:
· In terms of the complexity of the apps that can be built, how complex can they get? Could one, for example, create something with very similar functionality as, say, Uber, Foursquare, Twitter, AirBnB, etc. with little or no coding?
· How does the costs for hosting / server space work?
see our pricing page. It’s about the number of workflow runs (rough approximation for server calls).
You would use Bubble elements mostly. Right now, it’s a bit tricky to add your own (but we’ll change that soon), but we have plenty.
we’re more visual and the products you mention, and are targeting a less technical audience. In terms of product comparison, i’ll let other users give their prospective.
I’ve been using Bubble since the beginning of the year and have not looked back since. I don’t even use other platforms anymore, except for hybrid apps.
You can have a look at my AppSimplicity (live) and SheqDocs (still developing) sites.
Those platforms still require a level of coding, Bubble doesn’t. As far as I know (I might be wrong) they are for hybrid apps only and not web based. I might give AppGyver’s Composer 1 a try for my hybrid app.
A big requirement for me is users being able to view a pdf document which would have some blank fields that they need to fill in (Name, Address, etc.) as well as a field where they can e-sign and then save or email the completed document thereafter. Is this available with the current elements?
Sorry to be a nuisance, in terms of allowing users to be able to add their own elements, is there some sort of indication as to when this will be available.
I’m not trying to be facetious here and I can see that I’m going to be a pundit of the tool already, I just want to get as much info regarding future features as possible.
I came to Bubble from being a paying Appery customer. It is pretty powerful, but once you get beyond a certain point … you need to write your own Javascript. Which kinda defeats the point. And that point comes very quickly. Killer was when they broke it working on ChromeOS with one release and refused to fix it saying they never supported it, despite multiple tweet suggesting they did.
Kinetise looks very good, but it just seems to generate mobile apps.
Hi Nigel, my name is Piotr, I’m from Kinetise. I was curious what you meant by “Kinetise just seems to generate mobile apps”. Could you elaborate? And thank you for saying it looks good
Unless I am missing something, it is primarily mobile app based ? So a bit like Flinto (which I loved) but … produces actual apps off the back of it, rather than just a playable prototype.
So you can’t build full sized web pages ? Is that right ?
Other than that … it is really very good based upon having had a play today.
Anything properly #nocode is from me. These tools are the future.
Kinetise is only for mobile apps. For native mobile apps. You design it all with drag&drop interface - not just layouts, but also data connections and functionalities - and then you click BUILD button and your app is ready in 2 minutes.
Hi Piotr, I think the main appeal of Bubble for a lot of people, and definitely for me since the exchange rate in the country where I live is so poor, is that pricing to get started is better, and also, one can keep building, experimenting and getting to grips with the tool after the initial trial is over, without having to pay the monthly fee immediately…
Hi Jayson, thank you for your comments. And guess what - the business model has changed 2 days ago Now you have perpetual free tier, and it is enough to develop your app completely, and then paid plans start at $20 per month with appstores plan still at $99 per month.
I certainly feel pretty bad about chatting about these developments on this particular thread so going to stop now. One still has to consider though that Bubble offers 100% code free app building, Kinetise still requires a little bit of coding.
@emmanuel, sorry to have opened this can of worms on the community forum
$20 is for running the app on one device, $99 is for having your app in appstores. For free you can prototype as long as you want, you just cannot install the app on devices (well except for one trial build).
Hi @jaysonvdw, Bubble is the only product I’ve come across that is truly a No Code platform. While at times I do wish I could dig into the code, I am continually impressed at the way Bubble is designed, how simple it is to build on, and how quickly they continue to improve the product with new features. While it is still missing some types of advanced interface components (e.g drag and drop components that would allow for building certain types of interfaces like a Kanban app), it can easily build most ideas you have in rapid time.
There are already examples of building AirBnB and Twitter using Bubble, so those types of applications are definitely possibe.
Not sure about the Online SMS Gateway, but Bubble can work with Twillo for SMS. You may be able to get PandaDoc to work since it has an API.
The other products you’ve mentioned are mainly for building mobile apps, not desktop/laptop browser applications. Bubble is mainly for non-mobile devices, but it does allow you to create a mobile app, it just doesn’t do everything at this point. The only product that is close to Bubble is Appery, but even that does not provide the speed to develop that Bubble does, and, as @NigelG mentioned, will at some point require you to code – this could be a plus or minus depending on your experience. Appery does allow you to export the code, whereas Bubble does not. Bubble has the database built in, whereas Appery does not. There’s a lot of pluses and minuses for each platform, I think it’s up to you to decide.
from me. These tools are the future.