Postmark is awesome

Hey @underhill.dan,

I personally haven’t used MailChimp for Transactional Emails. I’ve only used Sendgrid which was horrible for me, and Postmark (which I’m still using). But just from looking briefly, it looks to be more expensive compared to Postmark. I’m also not 100% sure how Mailchimp’s Transactional email delivery is, but Postmark’s email delivery has been amazing for me so far.

I guess to answer your question, they are both transactional email services and have their own pros and cons, but they both have the same overall purpose.

Hope this helps :blush:

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Hey all,

For those using Postmark, I’ve reached out to them to understand their new updates a bit better and if you’re sending emails through Postmark’s API then you should be good because we’re using TLSv1.2.

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Hi @vini_brito – any insights so far? Thanks again for your help!

How are you handling “system” emails like password resets? My understanding is that there’s no way around using Sendgrid for those (i.e. that Bubble uses Sendgrid for those, without exception). I didn’t learn that until recently. Do you pay for both Sendgrid and Postmark?

I’m using Postmark exclusively and for Password Resets you can actually just create the token instead of actually sending the email - it’s on the Send Password Reset Email action, and then send the token through Postmark

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Hey there @sudsy,

You can do something like this that @afterthoughtsystem posted: SendGrid Warning for Newbies - #31 by afterthoughtsystem

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Thanks, @gf_wolfer and @johnny. I had, in fact, read about that approach; but then I got the following reply from Bubble support…

…which confused me. :confused:

You guys have convinced me that it is indeed possible to dispense with Sendgrid altogether. Thanks!

:slightly_smiling_face:

EDIT

It’s the “you should still expect to need to configure Sendgrid” part that confused me.

Yes! Not sure what they’re talking about because I’ve been using this method for about a year or two now even when I was on Sendgrid.

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Hey everyone I released a new feature in my plugin and I finally created a dedicated thread for it here, check it out :blush:: Richer Postmark emails plugin ✉ [Update of 16 march 2021]

It’s about batch emails and variables in the email bodies so you can send customized messages to a batch.

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Hi everyone, just tested this upcoming security update from them, we’re safe :relieved:
No action necessary.
@johnny @ryanck @ed727

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Thanks a lot @vini_brito

Awesome, thank you!

So am I able to transfer all emails including transactional emails like password resets, over to Postmark?

@sudsy were you able to figure this out?

Yes you can

Yes, it’s possible to completely transition away from Sendgrid to a different transactional email provider, as others have stated. I think there was a misunderstanding on the part of Bubble support which resulted in their rather confusing reply that suggested otherwise.

I’ve completely transitioned from SendGrid to Postmark and it’s been awesome!!!

My transactional emails hit the inbox (not spam), I’ve had no issues with blacklisting and I feel I have more control over the look and feel and have MUCH more professional looking emails + the analytics in Postmark are much better than SendGrid IMO. With sendgrid almost all emails were going to spam, I had been blacklisted by Yahoo and AOL and it was becoming a real issue. I have quite a few transactional emails too.

I use @vini_brito free postmark plugin, use a free Stripo account to do the email templates (copy and paste HTML in to plugin) and you get a huge amount of emails for $10/month in Postmark. So cheap, so easy, such better user experience. Only a few hours work to completely transition and I was starting from no knowledgebase of the process so this included the learning curve/googling etc.

And this is only my 3rd month using/learning Bubble to give you an idea of the level of experience you need (i.e. very basic).

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@ryanck @NigelG

Have you guys been able to send batch with template? I can get it to send with a handful of emails. But as soon as I try to send to a larger chunk of emails (lowest I’ve tried is 250) it simple won’t do anything. It doesn’t give me an error in the console, just does nothing.

My only guess is that it doesn’t automatically go into the Broadcast Stream and the regular stream just goes, nope! if the email count is higher than X value? Not sure if/how I would tell it which stream to use in the api connector?

I’m a little perplexed by it not giving me any error, I would have thought that there’s an error code for using the wrong stream or something. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

It is not for that. Native Postmark is a transactional email product.

You need to use the “Message Stream” for bulk.

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Hey Nigel,

Yes, that’s what I’m saying. I’m trying to use the broadcast stream for sending bulk email (as per the API doc). I never have any issues with the transactional stream.

Sending bulk by using the batchWithTemplates endpoint does work, but only for a small amount of emails. Sending 5 emails goes through and it’s all great. But when I try to send 250 emails nothing happens.

So I’m left wondering if connecting to the batch endpoint does not by default use the broadcast stream (as I would have expected) and it needs to be told which stream to use?

So I’m wondering, have you successfully sent +200 emails in one API call to the batch end point? If so, perhaps you can let me know what I’m missing :slight_smile: if there’s a way to send a stream ID in the API call that I have missed. I does not include a stream ID in the test call available in the API explorer from what I can tell.

Anyone else have an issue with live mode workflows?