Reasonable Alternatives to Bubble

This definitely deserves some kudos, FlutterFlow’s Marketplace is actually better than Bubble’s elements and components, you can get an animated navbar to your app in a few clicks, I’d design every particle of this one by one normally.

They also have these ready-made elements, similar to what bubble introduced not long ago but theirs is full of elements like ready to go file uploaders, paywalls etc…

Bubble has been MIA! - without the price increase I’d never known that I’m using an outdated platform lol

I don’t like the name though, FlutterFlow - they need to change this to something better.

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has anybody used xano and webflow together? I found also wized to build web apps in combination with xano and webflow.

Feedback or experiences on that would be great. :slight_smile:

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The quote was a mistake, it was for someone else :sweat_smile:

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fair enough :slight_smile:

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Interesting, I’ll check what they’re doing. More over I think bubble io should see what Microsoft did for their license on power pages product. They are charging differently for logged in users and anonymous users, it’s super expensive (and the product is not good) x) but it’s easy to understand and it’s easier to predict the amount you’ll pay depending on your user base.

https://powerpages.microsoft.com/en-ca/pricing/

Question to those who used flutterflow, do you see any community like this Bubble Forum in their site? It seems their community page is not active?

Also, can flutterflow be used for landing pages, etc?

We web charges per visit and the enterprise basically is run weweb in your server but cost $1.200 per month

Unfortunately any platform that does not have an incentivized marketplace for developers will be lacking features.

Are there any nocode builders with active marketplaces?

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Flutterflow have marketplace

https://www.noodl.net/ - this plataform is interasant, the codes is free, and the plans am incredbles. I search for more informations

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Can you sell on it though? Seems it’s all open source and not incentivized.

of the options between wappler and flutter which one do you think wins? in the matter of not needing to use programming language?

Tried it and was impressed. Yet I wanted to rely on a sustainable platform to invest my learning time in. Betting 100% of my time on bubble was both clever and stupid it seems.

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check this https://youtu.be/1RUuTG_HPUg

Scheduled a demo with them.

One of the hardest things is separating the “No-code tools” from the “Low Code Development Platforms” since everyone just says “We’re the most powerful no-code tool”.

Only the latter actually replaces Bubble. The former is still valuable, but it is only for extremely simple ideas that fit into your standard templates, not unique complex products.

Extendability and design freedom are critical, and I’m happy to take a steep learning curve to get them. Hoping DraftBit falls into this category.

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Create this poll as a new thread, so more people could notice it

Noodl creates SPA, which is not SEO friendly.

SEO is not needed for your backend. SEO pages can be build with other tools.

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Unfortunately, the lesson here is vendor lock in is a significant risk if you are trying to build a real business. If you are playing around or doing a side hustle, then it’s less of an issue.

Part of the assessment it feels like everyone needs to make is - if something drastically changes with the platform in question, can you maintain business operations without significant changes on your part?

  • Noodl stated in their discord they won’t be building to allow users to code export
  • WeWeb will allow you on their enterprise plan to export code so you can deploy on your own infrastructure, so that’s a good option
  • Dittofi is another platform that splits the front end (React) and backend (Go) and allows native support for code exporting.
  • Xano - it feels like there is significant vendor lock in here and while it is easier to build with, the same situation with bubble could happen with Xano?
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Noodl vs Flutterflow, which one to use?