It seems like there are hundreds no one is talking about.
I think the element we all want is the ability to export usable code. I don’t know how many can do that.
Someone, somewhere, needs to become the open source “wordpress of no code”. Their parent company is now worth 3 billion . As “zero to one” suggests, expansion is the key.
@dorilama In FlutterFlow there’s a button that says “View code” and it just opened a page of the different (.yaml, .json) files? It looks not minified do you know if this platforms code export is usable outside of their service?
Doing a enterprise demo Monday with Retool, I will report back. They pretty much allow you to integrate to any aws database in like 1 minute. I do need to learn about their workflows monday, but from what im seeing on their website and from what ive read in the past about them, they are possible comparable to bubble.
I dont want to leave bubble and im 99% I wont, I trust that Emanual and the team will fix it. Also, I dont hold grudges and to me this event will be like it never happened, 24 hours after they clarify some things.
Also, it’s been a long time coming for me to spend some time to check Retool, that would have happened without this unfortunate event, which only accelerated it. Id recommend you and anyone to look at tools that would pair with bubble for the different things you need, because almost all companies use multiple solutions for different things.
I never tried the export feature in FF.
It looks like someone created a vscode plugin so I imagine there are people modifying the exported code.
Guys, I leave here a platform suggestion, the next builder. I think the tool can be used for many projects, if you want to know more, follow the link: Adianti[Builder]
I just tried a little bit with react as frontend and xano as backend with the help of chatgpt and the results are great!
I am seriously looking at Wappler atm. Yes, the learning curve may be steeper but jumping from one closed ecosystem to another - one could face the same exact set of issues again.
Wappler doesn’t seem to have much of a team - is that a concern for a product like theirs? Even if they output clean code (yet to see how well structured it could be), one would want the product to be well supported and developed. Not sure what their funding situation is.
See what you did Bubble, we were all building our apps in peace. New pricing announced, two days later…
Have you looked at Wappler? I had a quick look at Dittofi - I am not familiar with Go. I have looked at templated solutions (i.e. buy a readymade template) for React before and the bloat was significant. Making changes to add features and running an efficient codebase was pretty hard when I last looked at it 1.5 - 2 years ago.
Appmaster claims to allow code download. they also have a comparison tool on their site. AppMaster vs Webflow vs Bubble vs FlutterFlow
I think Replit is another approach to realize the world that bubble was originally aiming for (non-engineers can easily develop applications).
As you know, Repilot has over 20 million users, supports over 50 programming languages, and is a great browser-based development service.
Recently, Repilot has entered into a strategic partnership with google cloud, and AI is now further accelerating to assist in development.
Replit’s CEO said
“Until language models are integrated into development environments, the future envisioned by Replit’s chief executive, Amjad Masad, in which AI helps non-developers become developers, turns software engineers into hyper-productive “10X engineers” and enables 1,000X productivity for complex software, remains out of reach.”
If Replit can achieve rapid growth within 18 months, it could be a valuable option for those looking to leave bubble.
My topic about Wappler was delete by Bubble mods without even notice or comments.
If some one interested in Wappler and looking for a experienced person who might help them - DM me.
Looks like they don’t have full code export. HTML and CSS are just the frontend, so you wouldn’t get any functionality. I’ve been looking into FlutterFlow, which looks to be pretty solid, but the only way to do things like Bubble’s DB triggers is to write them into Firebase in Node, I believe. I’m still considering it, because the cost of hiring a dev for our 10-12 absolutely backend workflows is still less than staying on Bubble long-term. Many of our db trigger workflows really could be frontend workflows, so it would be maybe $1,500-2,000 to have a dev write the same functionality in Node straight into Firebase if we use FlutterFlow. Not that bad, IMO, as it would be something we don’t often need, and there are tons of freelance devs who write in Node.
They deleted my post yesterday, so there’s an active moderation going on
Webflow + Xano I think this is the best alternative, the problem now is that it will have a very long learning curve, but totally worth it at the same time.
Has anyone done the calculation on how much would it cost to use ( Xano + Webflow ) or ( Wized.io + Webflow ) when compared to Bubble?
I started studying Xano and I found out 2 material drawbacks:
This looks like a dealbreaker. I will start studying Supabase.
This is indeed the feature that is missing in every other tool.
It’s possible in Wappler
I’m pretty sure it’s because PHP don’t have timers functions like JS, Xano build on PHP. I would consider google how certain actions can be build on PHP in order to understand how it can be done in Xano.
