prices?
Something I haven’t seen mentioned is which of these alternatives are most similar to Bubble. Are there any reasonable alternatives to Bubble that are similar enough to not require as much time to learn the new platform?
My app will see a price increase of about 6 times the current cost. I am also interested in finding the best alternatives to Bubble as everyone else is but at this moment I am particularly interested on migrating my app to another more cost effective platform before the 18 months deadline.
This is kind of my game plan. I think hoping chapgpt will be able to help me code some of the functions I need.
AI driven app development is no-code world in a way. It seems even traditional coders are looking into this mega trend.
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“I have said it before. Buildr is what Bubble would look like if Keith built it.”
Is that a compliment or not, @NigelG?
I am, but also I speak machine. (Also, I literally know I Speak Machine — they are awesome.)https://www.ispeakmachine.com/
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It is totally a compliment 
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Yeah I set up a meeting with one of their devs to go over how functions in bubble can be done in Noodl, they’ve been very responsive. The Noodl editor is actually built using Noodl so it goes to show how powerful it can be
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Is there some very good no-code front-end that is versatile and be connected to any back-end? Tried some but was not very amused, would like to hear somebody that build kanban boards, custom dropdowns, conditionals management, style managements with it etc.
I saw once that started this autumn and I liked how editor worked very much, but they decided to switch to headless CRMs instead of going with API integration. It’s called teleportHQ.
I’ve played with weweb a bit and really liking it.
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I like the look of Toddle although it’s still in closed beta, open beta begins 1st May. Toddle
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Not sure if anyone else has mentioned here, but WeWeb have fully utilized this moment and pivoted their prices, including code export on the lower plans, credit to them for this move.
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Do you think that weweb can bring enough versatility or custom code if things are getting specific?
I didn’t find any reusable elements and/or styles equivalent yet in the app.
Their tutorials are not on par with Bubble, so not everything is documented, I believe. This is their version of reusable elements - How to Save a Section to Your Design System in WeWeb - YouTube. You can add your custom-coded components - Develop custom components for WeWeb - YouTube.
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Thanks sharma, I’m going to dig into it 
I’m a little concerned that they have limited the starter plan to 4 plugins.
Other than that, they look really promising.
EDIT:
I spoke with a WeWeb rep, they don’t use many plugins at all. Most of the work is done in the backend with Xano. Where I use about 20 plugins in my current app, WeWeb would only require about 3.
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There is an effort to do a functionality mapping of a few Bubble alternatives.
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This is very useful, thank you. I’m considering Noodl for the frontend that I would like to pair with back4app backend as it is a realtime database.
In the comparison I saw something that worried me:
I thought that having a live database (with websocket if i understand correctly) was enough to:
a) show live data on the front end.
b) have the front end trigger an action if a backend variable is changed.
The comparison above says b) is not possible in Noodl. Does it mean that also a) is not possible?
@gerbertdelangen do you have an opinion on this? Thanks in advance.
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Hi @gianluca1 ,
It is not possible (yet) when you are using Noodls cloud hosting, however it is possible with your own backend. But the question is, is it really necessary? You can also poll the DB for updates, f.i. every x seconds perform a query. That can get quite resource heavy, so you might have to create a light weight polling solution (send me a PM).
Btw, probably best to ask questions about Noodl in the Noodl Discord channel, you can find the link on their website. 
And, of course before you decide to switch to another platform, try to analyze what your WU usage is / will be. You can see what the WU usage is tab Logs and you might just come to the conclusion you are better of sticking with Bubble after some testing.
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They haven’t - if anything they are looking to embrace AI. Did you see the posts a few weeks back re looking for AI researchers.
And technically possible now, we achieved AI Bubble created components - just fine tuning the process.
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