Reasonable Alternatives to Bubble

It is correct that you write a superset of HTML. But when you as a developer write HTML (the superset) and svelte spits out HTML on the other side this is nothing the developer should worry about. At least for starters.

I can agree we disagree. I encourage people to try. While others try to scare them away :smile:

Not offended, but stick to the case with arguments, not assumptions.

Peace out.

Can you tell me where I said that?

If you start from zero knowledge and jump into a framework you are setting yourself up to waste a lot of time and be frustrated. If you spend a bit of time to learn the basics of the language you will save much more time when you use the framework.

1 Like

Have some trust in people and you’ll get a long way. I am quite sure someone who is not proficient enough in Javascript will discover that and learn what they need.

The intention of my original post was to give the reader a birds eye view on an architecture that might be worth researching.

Elaborating on details like npm audit fix --force is on a detail level that many readers would not be able to put in a context. So you are way off.

You took us over on a completely different path than I would like to explore together with the readers (who read my tip and messaged me) so I leave it at this.

1 Like

You are right, and I definetely don’t talk from experience of people who randomly started projects without knowledge, wasted time with exactly that kind of error and reached out to me to finally find a solution.

Anyway, svelte is an amazing piece of software, with great performance, so by all means do try it and learn how to use it paired with its official web framework sveltekit.

I’m in!

1 Like

At first glance, it looks way more user friendly than other products that I’ve seen. My use case is specifically for web apps. I’d probably do something like Flutterflow for mobile.

Mind sharing what you like about it and things that could improve? The high notes are fine. Also, how’s the community and the marketplace for components etc?

1 Like

Is Replit Visual Studio on steroids? It’s not really a Bubble or no/low code platform competitor but something that helps you write code that could be used standalone or inside of them, right?

Thanks.

What are you doing for your marketing pages? Will you be using something like Framer or Webflow for example?

would love to know what you find out. Keep in mind that xano doesn’t offer real time data, so look at supabase?

2 Likes

Thank you for the heads up, will do!

It looks like an in-browser IDE AI bot. Although this goes the way of code, it won’t be long before you can describe your logic to a bot and have them write the code and save to files. It will suggest the best database to use for your use case. It will anticipate edge cases and conditionals. It will solve infrstructure set-up questions, recommend AWS plans, and tell you how to set up Cloudflare. It will explain this to you like you’re 5 and build an app in hours or days. AutoGPT is already doing this in the demo use case. It’s not far away. It will be faster to code doing this than a human manually creating no code workflows. Bubble know this and like every other no code platform want to be first to market with inbuilt AI. If they have customers after their pricing crisis…

2 Likes

Has anyone tried Noodl? I’m currently going through its tutorials. Very intuitive for Bubble refugees. Downside is you can’t export human-readable code, but it’s pricing is extremely fair with a free plan to learn it. Let me know if you’ve tried it and what your thoughts are.

kinda like this: builder.ai App Development Process - Here's How It Works ← interestingly I found this why looking at one of the VC (insight partners) blogs who also gave them 100m

2 Likes

Lol. Very very interesting. My eyes went :eyes:

1 Like

I think that Supabase’s realtime updates, like Bubble, works over web-sockets which can’t be used with the API Connector. I thought that the Supabase plug-in might do it but didn’t get to try it and now Lantz has pulled the plug-in :frowning:

Do you know of another way?

1 Like

So bubble turned us into a real life MVP, now that we know it work, we have to deal with code as any growing project :joy:

1 Like

supabase has a nice javascript client :slight_smile:

1 Like

Good point, well made :+1:

1 Like

O plugin continuarĂĄ disponĂ­vel?

My guess is that Bubble just gave up. They are trying to cash out before GPT takes over… Hopefully in 18 months GPT5 or GPT6 will completely replace no-coding… It’s time to start playing with prompts! Look at what some guys with no coding experience were able to create with GPT4 that was released just 3 weeks ago:

7 Likes