RGs & "Do a Search for" not updating without refresh today (2)

[aj11]

Starting a new thread since this bug was back with a vengeance today and the previous thread (http://forum.bubble.io/t/rgs-do-a-search-for-not-updating-without-refresh-today) expired.

This issue was terrible in my app today, causing lots of issues for our users. Maybe worst I’ve ever seen it.

Something else I’ve thought of though that could alleviate this, is a feature that’s been requested before, which is a way to force refresh RGs.

Even if this particular bug is fixed, there are still lots of nasty caching issues, particularly in mobile Safari, that block the auto refresh. Having a way to force the refresh manually would not only be a short term fix to this bug, but also any and all other auto-refresh blocking bugs.

Here are some other threads on this feature/other rg refresh bugs:

RG refresh woes

So am facing the issues with RG refersh as several other posters. I have 2 RGs on a page, witht the upper RG showing active users and lower RG showing inactive users and toggles against each user being used to alternate their active/inactive state. When I do the toggle, the backend updates fine and the user also moves into the correct RG depending on the state, but it does not set the toggle right. Refreshing the page fixes the issue. However, when I am introducing a refresh page element act…

How to refresh RGs after a page went idle without reloading

Hi, my app is wrapped with BDK (which I strongly recommend) and works smoothly on mobile but I have problems when resuming it from background because RGs and calculated fields: take a lot to update (5 sec or more), sometimes do not update at all. I can detect when the page is woke-up from idle and also if a page is showing data that are not updated. In theory, for such cases, I could add a workflow to reload the page but I don’t want as it would be an horrible user experience. Is there a way…

RG stops refreshing automatically after some time

Hi everyone! I am sorry to create yet another topic about refreshing RGs, but I really haven´t found a solution to my issue. App works like this: Webhook with order details hits backend API endpoint. Some logic inserts rows into tables. RG does a search for active items in their respective station. Use: Kitchen display system, everytime an order comes in it sends different items to different stations. Should be as realtime as possible. Then cooks click an X when the item is done, and the qu…

RG not refreshing for Current User?

Just an initial check with you all: I noticed that something is different when creating a new Thing that is displayed in a RG on the page. Before, for the current user, it would load the new item as per RG’s sorted settings. Now, it doesn’t ‘refresh’ the RG. But when I have the same page/user open in another browser it does update instantly. I noticed this first with a picture uploader for clients. It seems the picture was not uploaded because it needs a refresh of the entire page to show the …

Trigger database refresh (to update RG)

Hello everyone, this is my attempt to create a simple shopping-list app: Preview: Editor: When dragging and dropping the items from left to right and vice versa, there are always some gaps and glitches in both RGs. Reloading the page helps to clean the Repeating groups up. This is a pretty bad workaround though. Is there a faster way to trigger a database refresh (which would reset and reload the Repeating Groups)? I already found some threads in the forum about this topic. However…

Manual refresh button for RG data

Hi All, Is there a way I can create a “manual refresh” button in my page to refresh data of an RG? Yes, I know RG data refreshes automatically, but like I have mentioned in this post (Data on page not getting updated) I am seeing rampant cases of RG data not being updated correctly and in time. So I wanted to check if there is a official way (or a hack) to force RG to update its data manually by user (without refreshing the page itself). It will not really solve my problem, but probably will …

Refreshing Repeating Group

@emmanuel Having the same issue, RG refresh not consistent, after changes in items qualified for criteria of an RG group filter, and the like

The auto refresh ability of Bubble RGs is cool, but it’s never been truly reliable 100% of the time, and there’s no reason for us to believe it ever will be in the future. So does it not make sense to provide the ability to manually trigger refreshes as a backup?

Thoughts? @josh

[mghatiya]

Thanks @aj11 , yeah I have been hoping for same feature itself too. In fact some good soul had put it up on Ideaboard too, but had not received much traction unfortunately.

Sharing screenshot as ideaboard ideas don’t have url to share.

By the way, for me the issue is not limited to having new data not getting updated in RG. What also happens is that wrong data is shown in the table because of broken connection or whatever. So for example if it is a repeating group that shows a list of tasks, then in the row of tasks one column will belong to one task, another to another task etc. It quadruples the confusion and issues.

PS: Also, I think there are some kinds of threads (don’t know which kind) which don’t expire. Maybe we should figure that out and post one of that kind.

[aj11]

We need people to go upvote this and get more attention to it.

The best way to build web apps without code | Bubble

Scroll down a bit to load more of the page, then search for “Add a workflow action called” and it will come up.

I don’t understand how we’re supposed to build reliable apps on Bubble with RGs that don’t auto-update and we can’t force to refresh. Debilitating.

At least give us the ability to force the refresh to account for the times when it’s not working.

[gianluca1]

Hi, I just upvoted the Add a workflow action called “Refresh repeating group”
The right link is “https://bubble.io/ideaboard”

[aj11]

Looks like it’s been taken down?? When you go to the link it redirects back to Bubble’s home page.

[gianluca1]

nope if you simply paste here the url, the “/ideaboard” part gets cancelled. If instead you paste the url using quotes (“url”) it pastes the complete url: “https://bubble.io/ideaboard”

[aj11]

Ahhh I see. Thanks!

[gaimed]

anyone else still having problems? Its not updating at our end…

[aj11]

Seems to be alright for us today at least. Any update on the fix @josh?

[alexcrsouza]

I upvoted this idea too!

[josh]

Yeah, so the second band-aid fix we tried worked, and the problem hasn’t occurred again since. We don’t think this fix will last forever, and are still working on the long-term fix, but so far so good.

For users such as @gaimed who are still seeing a problem, it may be a different issue than the one we’ve been looking into, so I encourage opening a bug report with details about your specific app if you haven’t already to make sure it gets on the team’s radar.

I’m passing on the force-refresh feature idea to the team. It’s an interesting idea, but I’m not sure if it would solve caching issues, since those tend to be at a layer below our code; we’re already trying to force a refresh whenever we detect the data in the repeating group is stale. More likely, the best route forward there is for us to find a workaround to the caching problems that makes our existing real-time updates just work without users having to write a workflow.

[rafael.alima]

Hi @josh the last 3 days ago was very productive for me, but today the problem was back. It’s a very terrible issue, at this moment since the morning this problem doesn’t get away.

[J805]

Hey @josh I am still having this issue where the repeating group is not updating. I just sent in a bug report for you with a test page to show the issue. Hope it helps resolve the issue. Thanks!

[josh]

Yeah, sorry, the band-aid we put in place stopped working this morning – we’re actively working on seeing if we can re-band-aid it

[josh]

Should be working again now. That said, system is very close to its limits and could break again, so we’re actively working on more permanent fixes

[rafael.alima]

hi @josh if you consider implement the idea of workflow force refresh the repeating group, maybe is more faster than other paliative solutions… at least it would give time to implement a definitive solution.

Best Regards,
R Lima.

[aj11]

Same here, it was back this morning quite severely.

@josh Thanks for the updates.

[chris51]

Thank you!

[aj11]

I’m not experiencing this exact issue, but I’m seeing a lot of strange behavior and 3-5 delays around repeating group updates today. Not sure if this could be a by-product of the most recent fix?

[aj11]

This is happening extremely aggressively tonight in the middle of the night when it usually would not happen. Is this due to updates being pushed or something else?

I’m troubleshooting with a customer and their app is falling apart in front of us. They have to reload the page every time they make a change to anything. Absolutely debilitating.

Any updates? @josh