I’m trying to figure out if there is the equivalent of Backend Workflows in Wappler or FlutterFlow?
Anyone figured that out yet?
I am pretty much sold to weweb, no matter bubble reverse their pricing or not, i ll move my apps to weweb in this 18 months grace period.
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Even if they backup its still too dangerous to be here
OwnTheCode name would be great for the next “Bubble”
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Are you not scared of being locked in again? I’m only considering the ones where I can get the code, so I can’t be screwed again. How do you justify locking yourself in one more time?
Imagine WeWeb gettin successful caused by the influx and then raising prices and we are going to be in the same boat?
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I’m afraid getting the code does not necessarely means that you will be able to use it outside the platform without a big effort.
The code generated can be too “ugly” to work with (usually nocode tend to have a giant amount of wrapper elements around every single thing you put in the page), the code may be frontend only but can require some bits from their proprietary backend, they may give you the code as is but not much to automate the deploy, or just the final bundle without a source that can be easy to work with for modifications.
Every platform has a degree of vendor lock-in, even with code.
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Can we get this confirmed for Wappler and FlutterFlow?
Is this a valid concern with them?
No, not the case with Wappler. I don’t know about Flutterflow.
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I believe Wappler actually outputs clean code, and you can (and have to) deploy it anywhere you like.
Wappler isn’t bubble… it’s more akin to DreamWeaver I’d say. The main problem you’ll face with Wappler is the very, very lacking user base and tutorials. There’s only a handful videos out there and downloading the application, setting up a local server, setting up a back-end and connecting it, never mind finding out how to actually deploying the website somewhere certainly is much more of a uphill battle than Bubble. And that’s even before you’ve started building your app. There’s no denying that. But it’s also a very good skill to have, and reduces your dependence on 3rd party platforms by a multitude.
The downside of wappler being more like a traditional software, is that you will pay like with a traditional software… if it will take you a year to learn, you will be paying out of pocket for that year.
I do wish they had a free learning option that didn’t allow code export and other restrictions to stop people abusing it, but allowed people to learn at leisure. I’m sure they would have grabbed a much larger market share if they did.
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Isn’t Wappler actually Dreamweaver?
Or created by the person who created Dreamweaver?
It’s pretty nice in many respects. But seems people take a long time to ship using it.
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TBD for me too. I’m thinking that might be something you set up in Xano or Firebase, since that’s where the DB would likely be hosted.
You are right wappler is only option i see for control over code. Even though weweb also give option in their enterprise plan to export code and self host it but don’t know how reliable it is.
Learning curve weweb < < wappler for absolute no-coders. Still researching on these two with supabase as my backend
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My ultimate favorite would really be Noodl if they allowed code export, I talked to them and their export is just like the Bubble Export → only they can read or modify it.
People, if you really want to leave Bubble, then choose Noodl.net. Speed of development comes very close to Bubble, code export, self hosting, short learning curve, good plugin infrastructure, React and excellent Discord community support.
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I played around with Noodl today and really liked it but the code export is non human readable and that kills it.
Yes, it is minified code. But just use ChatGPT to translate it to human readable JS. 
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Joking or is that really a thing? Who has GPT-4 access here? Can we actually test this?
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The difference with all the other tools that allow “code export” and wappler is that wappler doesn’t even host your code, it lives on your own disk, on your computer.
And I think it’s one of the reason they can’t have a free learning plan, because there’s nothing to stop you from just using the software for free while running your app. They can disable the software, which is what happens after 14 days… that’s about it.
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Not sure… but I don’t think so?
Big question about Wappler → How do I add Backend Workflows?